fahrenheit 451,
Me too like to propagate...
I guess...
Me too like to propagate...
I guess...
TruthSeeker said:That's a pretty good answer. But...
Ok...
1 Corinthians 16:14
"Let all that you do be done in Love."
Do you see any connection between those 2 quetions/answers?
How can we reach true joy?
Unconditional Love.
TruthSeeker said:You didn't answer like Jesus would...
No. And Jesus wouldn't asnwer with sin anyways....OliverJ said:sin is not the answer, everyone knows we suffer because of sin.... but why Jesus , why do we suffer....... thats the question.... Has nothing to due with Adam and Eve...... not from Jesus's perspective. Understand..?
Enigma'07 said:So if suffering has nothing to do with sins, then where do you propose it comes from?
So if suffering has nothing to do with sins, then where do you propose it comes from?
I didn't say that. I said that sin has nothing to do with what I wrote in the beginning.Enigma'07 said:So if suffering has nothing to do with sins, then where do you propose it comes from?
Enigma'07 said:Snakelord, so suffering is an action, but not a consequince, right?
OliverJ, how do you know what is "right" and what is "wrong"?
*************OliverJ said:Long story acutally, but I'll give you the short version....... Welp I never had parents growing up.... raised by my grandmother - who was a little sadistic in her nurturing..(long story).. also, I was not only sexually abused 3 times as a child by 3 different persons...... I was physically abused --- and emotionally abused quite often I may add. Had to go to work at age 13 thru a govenment program that alowed underage children to go to work to help pay the bills(one episode of sexual abuse happend during this time) - lived my entire life partying and doing no good at all for mankind...... but then something happend...... I had a son........... long story short again here ....... all my sons teachers , thru daycare and kindergarten....... ALL say this boy is the most loving child they ever had the pleasure of being with........ why? because I live my life thru Altruism........ I had 33 years of nothing but hate in my heart .... then , son was born...... found my unconditional love I so longed for in my life...now there is not an ounce of hate in my very being, anger sometimes sure.... hate never... and the rest is history. There is my life in a nutshell. Could write a book really, but you know.......
So how do I know whats right from wrong....... because I learned it from my heart. And nobody can ever tell me otherwise. Because that my friend is the truth of the matter.
Medicine Woman said:*************
M*W: OliverJ, I knew there was something special about you!
Snakelord, so suffering is an action, but not a consequince, right?
By the way, whose Christ have you heard visiting sciforums?TruthSeeker said:I've heard Christ is visiting sciforums...