Alex, this is crap. You're better than this.
Wake up man!
You just seemed upset Jan I was trying to be understanding I really think you could have replied differently and you usually do.
Even when someone really has a go at you, you take it in your stride and come back with a neat reply.
Your reply was not in keeping with your usual good form.
Even now you seem stressed somehow and I can't believe it is anything that I have said.
I've explained stuff to you.
You have Jan and I took the trouble to express my appreciation in what I though was a very open way and certainly I was sincere, in fact I was somehow touched by the way you were dealing with me.
But now you seem upset.
I hope that all in your personal life is ok if its not remember things always get better.
If you want to talk about it properly, I'm fine with that.
Well that was clear from my view point I wanted to talk but you avoid answering some things and really if I had given a link and you had forgoton it and asked for it from me I would have given it to you and I would have been happy you were interested enough to ask.
But I'm not going to take part in this.
Even this response is so unlike you Jan and really just causes me to worry that you are OK.
Look if you need to talk to someone just PM me as sometimes just having someone listen can make you feel better.
This is the kind of crap I'm talking about.
OK you do seem sensitive so let me apologise.
I was using short hand of a fashion.
Read where I said comics to be...movies about comics and the characters therein.
It was not meant to cause offence.
So I find it disappointing when you sink to these levels.
Well I hope you feel less disappointed.
My point was that I do not regard fiction as useful for me. If you get something out of it that's OK its just that I do not.
Our opinions differer that's all.
You're waffling on about stuff with no explanation, or no reasoning.
I think the scriptures are made up.
Page one..no witnesses but it is presented that way.
My reasoning turns upon that type of observation.
I could go thru any scripture you like and point out why it does not add up if you like.
My point is all were written by folk who really did not have a clue and in many cases don't add up today.
My opinion Jan.
God Is, is the beginning. If you aren't prepared to accept that, then God will never be, as far as you have this mind-set.
OK let's say I just do not get it.
I need something more satisfactory to work things out and I do not understand why you think that unreasonable.
Yet you simply say God is..that does not help but you repeat it rather than realise I don't get it and use your skill with words to explain things better.
I don't get why you just keep saying God is and expect me to get it moreover why when clearly I don't get it why you try more of the same.
I notice with the atheists on here, they always act like "if there were evidence of God, we'd accept He exists. But what that means is, nothing will ever be evidence of God that meets there standard. Hence God never has to exist
But Jan that is simply unfair and unreasonable. I asked for something anything.
Something to start with that could be built upon.
Your response has not provided a square one.
I say God does not exist simply to get you to say ..yes he does and if you look at how a tree grows etc whatever.... there would be something.
You don't get it that I we need something that offers some reasonable indication..I we can't just go OK we will believe in a made up character of which we have no evidence.
That is the point about Santa and the Easter bunny your approach to God is no different than an approach to a fairey tale and you fail to see that.
I we don't believe in fairey tales but you treat us as you expect us to approach the serious matter of God just as you would a fairey tale.
You must see that surely.
So there's no way he was doing science?
Personally I think he is using science to arrive at a pre conceived result.
My opinion.
Also I found differently with my personal experience and observing other families.
If you Jan were doing such science is there any question that you would not be influenced by your belief.
Be realistic you know and I know it would go your way.
I we can tell that by your approach to the thread title the dictionary says what it says yet you will not accept it and you proceed as if the dictionary and the current definition of atheist does not exist... And you do that over and over and over..
Deny that if you can.
I know Alex, theists have simple undeveloped minds.
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.
Read what I said again.
Let me put it another way.
Children can believe in stuff be cause they have undeveloped minds...that's why they believe in Santa...when they develop they can work out that it would be impossible for Santa to visit billions of homes..
Yet you think I am having a shot that your kind are some how stupid and to think that after I tell you the high respect I have for you, the belief that I think you are smarter than me is beyond me Jan.
Think about it .
You don't mean it.
I bet you have had a hard week relax, rest play some music because honestly you don't seem your normal on the game self.
My point..I can just accept a story I hoped you would see how I parallel the two and somehow understand.
Bye Jan be kind to yourself.
Alex