If you could erase one religious figure from history, who would it be?

lol, roosevelt was constantly pumped up with drugs, churchill was a drunk, stalin, a lunatic. out of the four one was a Episcopalian, another a lutheran, a third anglican, and the forth non-religious. whether you think Hitler was a junkie or not is irrelevant, but he most certainly was religious.so basically what you saying is, that any religious despot or evil doer, wasn't religious, is that right.
so the House of Borgia was just a group of evil unreligious people, who wanted power, "il duce" another unreligious person, ok.well perhaps I was a little harsh, because every book of fiction must contain some real references, in order to give it authenicity/realism like place names, and a real king/person here and there.

Well you are entitled to your opinion but i think you are way off the mark.

Being addicted to drugs is, for the most part, always relevant and then there is the type of drug. The people you mention most likely took drugs for pain but with Hitler he was getting injected with speed every day. The drug itself causes delusions and is unique in the way it effects the brain. I am using very good sources on this and it is not like i am making it up.

Mussolini was a very different person than Hitler and i think he had plans that were not really focused on the elimination of entire races of people at all. Towards the end being a narcissist he could not admit how wrong he was but he knew he was in a lot of trouble anyway and was not going to get off easy. He may have had some religious belief but we are talking about two very different people here.

If you were creating a profile on leaders who systematically eliminate groups of people with no mercy then the last conclusion you would come up with is the presence of religion in their motivation.

Aside from what what was told to the people to give the impression of a noble purpose or some form of camaraderie the fact is that the Nazis were not only targeting Jewish people and even Holocaust survivors dont see any religious motivations behind it at all because there was none.

Well that is what i have found in all my research on the subject. I do not doubt that some books were referenced, distorted and used in a n evil manner but the bible certainly was not one of them.;)
 
Of course.
Didn't you know there were definitely no atheists before Marx founded our church?
 
Lot because he raped his daughters and got them pregnant.

Hey, I am an atheist and even I know better!! Actually, Lot's daughters raped HIM! They made him drink wine and he was half asleep, that's how the story goes, hardly a rape by your standard....

Yeah, if Lot was a real man, I would want him eliminated, too!

Hm, so many accusing women here. So the poor guy was responsible for being taken advantage of???? This is the worst guy in the Bible you ladies could pick?

I understand Orleander, because she didn't know the story correctly, but you...
 
Insofar as religion is a belief system so too is Atheism. Atheists believe the universe just happened miraculously without a First Cause. Furthermore they don't believe in Absolute Biblical Morality but a choose your own morality like Hitler or Charles Manson.
 
Insofar as religion is a belief system so too is Atheism.

Notthis again.
It's a dis-belief.
A non-belief.
A lack of belief.

There is no belief.

Atheism says "we don't know and we aren't going to assign a cause until we have more information".
 
Notthis again.
It's a dis-belief.
A non-belief.
A lack of belief.

There is no belief.

Atheism says "we don't know and we aren't going to assign a cause until we have more information".
You're thinking of Agnosticism which is also a religion.

Atheism says "we do know that God doesn't exist."
 
Just as it's impossible to do nothing, absense of belief is nevertheless still a belief. But Atheism is much more than the absense of belief, in fact it's the explicit religious denial of various specific world views and the metaphysical assertion that God does not exist.
 
Descartes
why?
because he made so many people believe in the existence of an unconscious substance that is supposed to determine our life.
 
God...time to butt out for good. From something solid like the Sun, to congregating at the top of Mount Olympus, becoming a cow and other beasts to existing in an incomprehensible heaven, He is slowly getting pushed back. Did I hear He is now in another dimension?
 
I'd erase Isaac Newton. Nothing against him or his views or any built on his foundations but it would create havoc and have terrible repercussions on modern day science, that's why I choose him, maximum damage choice.
 
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