If you could erase one religious figure from history, who would it be?

Wasn't he already Christian? In everything but name. He believed in Jesus, and all the Jewish prophets...
 
Jesus christ...then sandals would be cool,

oh and there would have been a lot less violence over the past 2,000 years,
and no John Hagee
 
why said:
If you could erase one religious figure from history, who would it be? and why?
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as M*W has already said, no holy book contains any historical figures, however, I would choose Torquemada, take a look at this sick f**ks history, or even Hitler theres another religious sick f**k.
 
pavlosmarcos said:
or even Hitler theres another religious sick f**k.
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Well Hitler most likely had no belief in God or assumed no accountability for his actions. Some speculation of occult beliefs\numerology are hard to verify but i would not discount those views outright due to drug use that is pretty much accepted as being part of his daily routine. Everything was merely a ruse and for public consumption IOW propaganda.

Same for Torquemada in that we can be fairly certain that what was done was for the good of those in power and to keep them there. So basically these were not religious figures.
 
It is stated often by christians that those who never knew jesus would go straight to heaven. As so, surely the answer would be jesus? Just by that act alone, the mass majority of humans are saved.
 
And not that i am looking to piss people (without getting specific) off but merely providing what seems to be fairly obvious in as much as the Reich spun natural selection to be more like unnatural selection or possibly speeding up natural selection or manipulating it. Nevertheless it was a big part of their motivations, all you have to do is some reading and a little thinking to draw this conclusion.
 
Huh?
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It's quite simple in that when a christian is asked whether all those people that lived before the time of jesus or those that never got the chance to hear about him would be sent to hell, (the christian would claim that one needs to believe in jesus and his supposed ressurrection in order to be forgiven of their sins blah de blah - which isn't possible for those that died before jesus came about), the christian typically claims that those people, by not having ever heard of jesus, are not destined to hell by not believing in him. In saying, if there never was a jesus, there wouldn't be a problem for everyone that had heard but didn't believe - which is most.
 
SnakeLord said:
It's quite simple in that when a christian is asked whether all those people that lived before the time of jesus or those that never got the chance to hear about him would be sent to hell, (the christian would claim that one needs to believe in jesus and his supposed ressurrection in order to be forgiven of their sins blah de blah - which isn't possible for those that died before jesus came about), the christian typically claims that those people, by not having ever heard of jesus, are not destined to hell by not believing in him. In saying, if there never was a jesus, there wouldn't be a problem for everyone that had heard but didn't believe - which is most.
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Ok, but I don't think they typically claim that those people, though not damned to hell, go to heaven by default. Maybe if you're talking about a baby that logic could apply.
 
Abraham.

Without Abraham, there'd be no Judaism.

Without Judaism, there'd be no Jesus and Christianity

Without Judaism and Jesus (and Christianity), there'd be no Muhammad and Islam.

I find Biblical Judaism and Islam to be the most objectionable of all religions, thus Abraham being annihilated would be the most effective. Christianity isn't as bad.
 
John99 said:
Well Hitler most likely had no belief in God or assumed no accountability for his actions. Some speculation of occult beliefs\numerology are hard to verify but i would not discount those views outright due to drug use that is pretty much accepted as being part of his daily routine. Everything was merely a ruse and for public consumption IOW propaganda.
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lol, roosevelt was constantly pumped up with drugs, churchill was a drunk, stalin, a lunatic. out of the four one was a Episcopalian, another a lutheran, a third anglican, and the forth non-religious. whether you think Hitler was a junkie or not is irrelevant, but he most certainly was religious.
John99 said:
Same for Torquemada in that we can be fairly certain that what was done was for the good of those in power and to keep them there. So basically these were not religious figures.
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so basically what you saying is, that any religious despot or evil doer, wasn't religious, is that right.
so the House of Borgia was just a group of evil unreligious people, who wanted power, "il duce" another unreligious person, ok.
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In addition to that i cannot see any reason to assume that religious books would not contain accounts of actual people. Seems logical that they would though.
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well perhaps I was a little harsh, because every book of fiction must contain some real references, in order to give it authenicity/realism like place names, and a real king/person here and there.
 
Orleander said:
Why would Christians hate Jews?
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The Christian hatred of Jews goes back to the writings of Luther and beyond.

He wrote an influential book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

In the treatise, Luther writes that the Jews are a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth."

They are full of the "devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine,"and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut " He argues that their synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated.

They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "we are at fault in not slaying them."

Its widely held among bible thumpers that God does not hear the prayers of a Jew, because they reject Jesus as the messiah.
 
Carcano said:
The Christian hatred of Jews goes back to the writings of Luther and beyond.

He wrote an influential book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

In the treatise, Luther writes that the Jews are a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth."

They are full of the "devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine,"and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut " He argues that their synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes razed, and property and money confiscated.

They should be shown no mercy or kindness, afforded no legal protection, and these "poisonous envenomed worms" should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also seems to advocate their murder, writing "we are at fault in not slaying them."

Its widely held among bible thumpers that God does not hear the prayers of a Jew, because they reject Jesus as the messiah.
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You're full of shit and so is Luther. Get real.
Jesus split from the jews, yes.But, he never ordered their murder or slavery
 
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