None. There is no soul by any testable or measurable definition. You define the experiment since it's your hypothesis.Or failing that, what evidence would you hope to find?
Define the experiment.
None. There is no soul by any testable or measurable definition. You define the experiment since it's your hypothesis.Or failing that, what evidence would you hope to find?
Define the experiment.
No, they're the exact opposite.True science and for lack of a better word true religion are the same.
You're full of shit, shit-for-brains.
None. There is no soul by any testable or measurable definition. You define the experiment since it's your hypothesis.
I don't know. What are you on about?What is my hypothesis?
The soul?
Where do you get that from?
It depends how you define physical/material. In some definitions it is defined as being made of matter, with mass, etc...VitalOne,
The physical/material universe is composed of a combination of matter and energy that are inextricably linked and where each can be converted into the other, e.g. E=MC^2. The forces of electromagnetic, gravity, strong nuclear, and weak nuclear, are all part of that inextricably linked fabric.
Something immaterial or supernatural is simply none of that and remains undefined as to what it could possibly be.
Why does it have to be supernatural or outside energy? After Gorillas were proven to be real, they were no longer mythical.Cris said:No. The soul concept as a supernatural entity lies outside the physical/material realm of matter, energy and forces. Your analogy is not valid.
Your evidence? Your proof? Your experimental protocol?The mind, not made of matter, is made of energy (similar to EMF, but different). This is what I've personally found to be true. Also check the electromagnetic theories of consciousness, they propose something similar to what I've said but different. Their theory lacks the unacknowledged ether-energy in my opinion.
Thats what science is all about, people developing theories, evidence being gathered, and one coming out to be proven true, however you atheists seem to discourage anything that points to a soul or immaterial mind or God existing. You are no different from theists or any other religious person, just trying to defend your faith.
You're full of shit, shit-for-brains.
KennyJC is rational and is just asking for some testable propositions about the "soul". Please give us some testable ideas regarding a soul.
Please read and respond to my other posts.There are many theories proposing that there is an immaterial mind or soul. Check them yourselves.
Your evidence? Your proof? Your experimental protocol?
Didn't think so.
Prove it and I'll retract my statements.You can't say anything besides I'm full of shit, because everything I said was true.
Look, I know there are lots of theories out there and I've read many of them.Its obvious that you have no knowledge in the area. Go read something about consciousness ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness ) and see the various different theories yourself.
No, you missed the point and misrepresented what I said.If the brain is independent and freewheeling, ergo the will does not apply.
To exert a control there needs to be an input.
Consider the analogy of an electronic amplifier. Independently, freewheeling, the output is noise (or an oscillation if the internal feedback is positive).
And in the case of the brain, it’s ability to think is the input and the control is the brain since the brain is what makes you – you.To achieve a meaningful output there needs to be a meaningful input, and for free will to be meaningful somebody has their hand on the volume control, hence an input of energy.
It's obvious that you're a loon with no desire to learn anything about reality. Go back to middle earth. The elves are waiting.Its obvious that you have no knowledge in the area. Go read something about consciousness ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consciousness ) and see the various different theories yourself.
Crap.
Then apply this to the "controller" in an infinite regression. Pretty absurd, right?
It's obvious that you're a loon with no desire to learn anything about reality. Go back to middle earth. The elves are waiting.
So, you're very afraid of my questions about evidence and experimental testing of your soul idea.Just keep on confirming what I said about atheists
Look, I know there are lots of theories out there and I've read many of them.
Where's the fucking EVIDENCE and EXPERIMENTAL SUPPORT for ANY OF THEM???
Huh?Infinite regression?
The will is by definition progressesive, not regressive.
Do you hope to halt regression by suppossing the brain to be the soul the will and the consciousness? That's just stupid. They don't buy this idea that they're nothing more than a peculiar accumulation of chemicals.