History of the Holocaust

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S.A.M. said:
Which part?

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Do you have to carry a different coloured one from the native Americans?
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SAM are you really that Obtuse?
 
S.A.M. said:
Which part?

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Do you have to carry a different coloured one from the native Americans?
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Native Americans don't carry passports, if they get one they get it from the United States...then it's the same color. Mine is a different color than the British one though :rolleyes:

The 2000 picture.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Really? and what happened between 1890 the end of the Indian wars and 1924? the Indian wars were over for 25 years, no attacks.

Now how about the next 40 years, rights for Native Americans really didn't become universal until the Civil Rights Acts of the 60tys.

Did the Native Americans continue a war that ended in 1890? Did they send out suicide bombers to attack Americans? Did they launch rockets from the reservations? no---they took the long road, and in the end we survived and prospered, the culture has reemerged, the pride is back, and the past is just what it is, the Past, a bucket of cold ash.

That is what is necessary for the Arabs of Palestine, and that is what they are Arabs, and they have been meanly used by their Fellow Arabs and Muslims for political purpose, but in the end the only hope is for the Palestinians to recognize that they have lost, make Peace, and move into the Future.

If they want their rights recognized, they must make it so their rights can be recognized, and to continue to send suicide bombers, rockets and missiles into Israel will not get then any rights, only more death and destruction, and until they recognize the rights of Israel, and the Jews, why should Israel give them a break? when all it does in end up with the death of more Israelis?


Other wise nothing will change, and in end the Mushrooms will bloom, and they will die with the Jews.
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So if the US was occupied by foreigners with a different culture, language and religion, what would you recommend Americans do?

CheskiChips said:
Native Americans don't carry passports, if they get one they get it from the United States...then it's the same color. Mine is a different color than the British one though :rolleyes:

The 2000 picture.
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Why are there different coloured ID cards for Palestinians from different parts of their own land? Who determines if Palestinian refugees can enter Palestine? Can Palestinian refugees settle in the independent state of Gaza?
 
CheskiChips said:
- Probably because Gaza hasn't formed a centralized agency.
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How does this explain why East Jerusalem Palestinians have blue cards, but West Bank Palestinians have orange [Israeli issued] or green [PA issued]?

- I don't know.
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Could you find out? I am curious to know if Palestinian refugees are allowed into Gaza if they wish to return home. If Hamas, their elected government can issue them maroon ID cards and if they can be registered in Israeli refgistries of Palestinian population [which are required to prove their "existence"]
 
S.A.M. said:
So if the US was occupied by foreigners with a different culture, language and religion, what would you recommend Americans do?
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SAM, what if don't count.

Maybe you should ask that question of the Germans, Italians, or the Japanese, or even those cultures crushed by Islamic expansions, or even India.

S.A.M. said:
Why are there different coloured ID cards for Palestinians from different parts of their own land? Who determines if Palestinian refugees can enter Palestine? Can Palestinian refugees settle in the independent state of Gaza?
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Ask the Palestinian Authority? maybe Jordan? or even Egypt? they are the ones who issues Pass Ports for Palestinians and control who enters and leaves
Palestine.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Ask the Palestinian Authority? maybe Jordan? or even Egypt? they are the ones who issues Pass Ports for Palestinians and control who enters and leaves
Palestine.
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So if Gazans leave, can they return to their independent state with their elected government?

SAM, what if don't count.

Maybe you should ask that question of the Germans, Italians, or the Japanese, or even those cultures crushed by Islamic expansions, or even India.
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Then you support the Chinese occupation of Tibet, your advice to people already under occupation is "get used to it"?
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Ask the Gazans.
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I'm asking the people who declare Gaza as an independent state free from occupation. I already know that the Americans pay a puppet in Egypt to keep Rafah closed and that the Israelis do not allow those without maroon ID cards [issued by Israel or green cards issued by their paid puppets in the PA] to enter Gaza.

I'm wondering how the people decrying/denying the two year blockade of Gaza and the recent massacre of a population which was locked in and not permitted to leave during the massacre, collate these realities with their assertions.

Its like saying the Warsaw ghetto was an independent state because the kapos were all Jews.
 
cheski said:
Israel has no troops stationed in Gaza, Gaza exists as an independent state recognized by Israel.
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A few more improvements, and Gaza will have attained Homeland status as good as the Apartheid states had bordering old South Africa.

Something for the Palestinian to look forward to, no doubt.
 
Buffalo Roam said:
Really? and what happened between 1890 the end of the Indian wars and 1924? the Indian wars were over for 25 years, no attacks.

Now how about the next 40 years, rights for Native Americans really didn't become universal until the Civil Rights Acts of the 60tys.

Did the Native Americans continue a war that ended in 1890? Did they send out suicide bombers to attack Americans? Did they launch rockets from the reservations? no---they took the long road, and in the end we survived and prospered, the culture has reemerged, the pride is back, and the past is just what it is, the Past, a bucket of cold ash.
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I never said universal recognization but merely a recognizion. A peaceful path opened to them and they took it. a peaceful path doesn't yet exist for the Palestinians.

That is what is necessary for the Arabs of Palestine, and that is what they are Arabs, and they have been meanly used by their Fellow Arabs and Muslims for political purpose, but in the end the only hope is for the Palestinians to recognize that they have lost, make Peace, and move into the Future.
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No buffalo they aren't merely arabs they are palestinians who have a right to live in their homeland more so than a bunch of people who turned their backs on the land.

If they want their rights recognized, they must make it so their rights can be recognized, and to continue to send suicide bombers, rockets and missiles into Israel will not get then any rights, only more death and destruction, and until they recognize the rights of Israel, and the Jews, why should Israel give them a break? when all it does in end up with the death of more Israelis?
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Still eating up the propaganda I see. Israel has no rights illegitiatimite but even so the palestinians recognized as having rights. They have recognized Israel. Its far past time for Israel to get on board with peace for the palestinians have been there waiting for a while.


Other wise nothing will change, and in end the Mushrooms will bloom, and they will die with the Jews.
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So in other words cede their rights to the Israelis and its supporters and their blind hatred. Fat chance. They survived the crusades and the turks they will survive Israel.
 
John99 said:
the have a history there. how, according to you, did they turn their back on it? whatever that is supposed to mean.
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Well for 1700 years they did nothing to claim said history. They never tried to return( and don't give that fucking bullshit they couldn't afford it the managed to afford to get Europe) they never tried to make a claim. You try and obtain and lay claim to what matters to you.
 
John99 said:
but you are against that.
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because they waited so long. If through out that 1700 year dearth they would have even gone and just said this(palestine) is our homeland every 2 or 3 generations or so I wouldn't have had a problem with it but they didn't. hell the first time anyone brought up a new jewish state in palestine it was napolean. 1600 years or so and not even a jew.
 
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