i know what it says. i was demonstrating a point. 
Has European multiculturalism gone too far?
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at least he openly affiliates himself with what he preaches, unlike some other posters....thats how i see it.
More historical inaccuracies and unsupported conjecture from one of the resident retards. There is a lot of controversy over the situation prior to Wessel's death, but the Communist claim that he was a pimp is held in skepticism by the vast majority of the scholarly community.
There are many alternative views, including the interpretation that Wessel fell in love with a prostitute, took her from her pimp and made him live with him, while attempting to convince her to save herself by joining the Nazi party and follow its ideals.
The fact remains that the historical background surrounding the murder of Wessel is controversial. Hence, you cannot claim that your interpretation of the matter is factual.
Buffalo Roam
Registered Senior Member
ROTFLMASO, OMG, a true NAZI response, and you can? NAZI apologist! what a hack!
Buffalo:
Why do you believe the 'pimp' story over the multiple alternatives, which paint Wessel in a better light? Oh wait, I forgot, he was a Nazi. And obviously, since he was a Nazi, then we assume the worst. There's not the slightest possibility that he fell in love with prostitute, had her live with him, and tried to teach her the ideals of the Nazi party? Men never fall in love with prostitutes? Men never try to protect women who are suffering hardship?
Your jumping to the conclusion that Wessel MUST have been a pimp displays your bias against the Nazis for all to see. And then people wonder why I think that perhaps the evil acts committed by the Nazis have been overexaggerated!
funkstar:
The fact remains that regarding the Horst Wessel issue, there is very little evidence to support any theory regarding his death. And even in the scholarly circle, there is still heated debate and controversy. So any theory is essentially conjecture. Proclaiming conjecture as fact is underhanded.
Not necessarilly. A 'true' Nazi response would be the absolute assertion that Wessel died heroically while fighting numerous vicious Communists, who were former pimps of his gf. I never made this claim. I merely presented it as an alternative explaination which is believed by numerous historians.
I never made an absolute assertion, nor did I ever claim to have a factual account of the events leading to Wessel's death. HOWEVER, I did point out that the 'Hessel was a pimp' is not a factual statement, but one of the many theories surrounding his death. The very fact that there is controversy over the issue demonstrates that your statement that 'Hessel was a pimp' is pure conjecture, not a factual statement.
Why do you believe the 'pimp' story over the multiple alternatives, which paint Wessel in a better light? Oh wait, I forgot, he was a Nazi. And obviously, since he was a Nazi, then we assume the worst. There's not the slightest possibility that he fell in love with prostitute, had her live with him, and tried to teach her the ideals of the Nazi party? Men never fall in love with prostitutes? Men never try to protect women who are suffering hardship?
Your jumping to the conclusion that Wessel MUST have been a pimp displays your bias against the Nazis for all to see. And then people wonder why I think that perhaps the evil acts committed by the Nazis have been overexaggerated!
POISONING THE WELLIGIST!
Oh please. Why don't you go back to labelling individuals who you don't even have cursory knowledge about as pimps. You must have some experience in the area, given that you have crowned yourself as a spotter of pimps.
funkstar:
Technically, I don't deny the Holocaust. I assume that it didn't occur due to a lack of concrete evidence.
The fact remains that regarding the Horst Wessel issue, there is very little evidence to support any theory regarding his death. And even in the scholarly circle, there is still heated debate and controversy. So any theory is essentially conjecture. Proclaiming conjecture as fact is underhanded.
It amazes me how easily people absorb this Revillusion propoganda. The idea that guillotines were used to cut off people's heads! In those days everyone carried swords around. Why build a huge unwiedly contraption to do what you could do with a single swipe?
...and if they did exist, they were just used to cut people's hair. Instant barber. Nothing sinister at all.
...and if they did exist, they were just used to cut people's hair. Instant barber. Nothing sinister at all.
Buffalo Roam
Registered Senior Member
But how do you explaine the documents that are being realeased by the German Goverment today? Official record thar have been sealed for 50 years, this sealing of records have allowed you appoligist for the NAZIs to become historical revisionist, and to make the anamals of the NAZI regime look more human.
Archives and Records - News - Times Topics - The New York Times ...
The Bad Arolsen archive is one of the largest in the world, with up to 50 million documents, some seized by the Allies as they liberated concentration camps ...
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refer...s=closest&query=GERMANY&field=geo&match=exact
Holocaust Denial & The Big Lie
This document provides a counterpoint to assertions commonly made by those who deny that anyone was gassed at the Auschwitz-Birkenau and other death camps ...
http://www.remember.org/History.root.rev.html
Archives and Records - News - Times Topics - The New York Times ...
The Bad Arolsen archive is one of the largest in the world, with up to 50 million documents, some seized by the Allies as they liberated concentration camps ...
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/refer...s=closest&query=GERMANY&field=geo&match=exact
Holocaust Denial & The Big Lie
This document provides a counterpoint to assertions commonly made by those who deny that anyone was gassed at the Auschwitz-Birkenau and other death camps ...
http://www.remember.org/History.root.rev.html
funkstar:
Wir sind das Heer vom Hakenkreuz,
Hebt hoch die roten Fahnen!
Der deutschen Arbeit wollen wir
Den Weg zur Freiheit bahnen!
Wir schließen keinen Bruderpakt
Mit Roten und mit Welschen,
Und allen, die den Freiheitsbrief
Des deutschen Volkes fälschen.
Wir schließen keinen Bruderpakt
Mit unseren Tyrannen
Und mögen sie uns hundertmal
Ins tiefste Elend bannen.
Wir schließen keinen Bruderpakt
Mit bangen, feigen Wichten,
Es gilt die große Niedertracht
Europas zu vernichten.
Wir sind das Heer vom Hakenkreuz,
Hebt hoch die roten Fahnen!
Der deutschen Arbeit wollen wir
Den Weg zur Freiheit bahnen!
*sings*
Wir sind das Heer vom Hakenkreuz,
Hebt hoch die roten Fahnen!
Der deutschen Arbeit wollen wir
Den Weg zur Freiheit bahnen!
Wir schließen keinen Bruderpakt
Mit Roten und mit Welschen,
Und allen, die den Freiheitsbrief
Des deutschen Volkes fälschen.
Wir schließen keinen Bruderpakt
Mit unseren Tyrannen
Und mögen sie uns hundertmal
Ins tiefste Elend bannen.
Wir schließen keinen Bruderpakt
Mit bangen, feigen Wichten,
Es gilt die große Niedertracht
Europas zu vernichten.
Wir sind das Heer vom Hakenkreuz,
Hebt hoch die roten Fahnen!
Der deutschen Arbeit wollen wir
Den Weg zur Freiheit bahnen!
I thought you didn't like German?
Zephyr:
But I like their military music. Even the most harsh accent can't downplay the catchy tune of a German patriotic song. I've noticed that the Polish, French and Russians are also right up there with the Germans when it comes to rousing patriotic songs. I guess they were the countries who were often in the most need of them.
Oh, and it is funny to poke the wasp nest when someone calls me a Nazi. If I'm going to be known as a Nazi, I might as well have some fun and act like one!
SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL!
When it comes to everyday conversation, I don't.
But I like their military music. Even the most harsh accent can't downplay the catchy tune of a German patriotic song. I've noticed that the Polish, French and Russians are also right up there with the Germans when it comes to rousing patriotic songs. I guess they were the countries who were often in the most need of them.
Oh, and it is funny to poke the wasp nest when someone calls me a Nazi. If I'm going to be known as a Nazi, I might as well have some fun and act like one!
SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL! SIEG HEIL!
Buffalo Roam
Registered Senior Member
No acting required.
Yes and no. That's not my official belief, but I don't blame others for being suspicious about it due to lack of any substantial proof. If there's any real proof, not just evidence, please show it all.
No as I clarified above.
The only official belief I have in regards to the Holocaust that you may not like is that I believe without a doubt that Jews exploited that event for their own gains to have their state of Israel and continue to this day to exploit that event and call anyone who disagrees with them an anti-semite so they can go ahead and do whatever they want unchecked, even going so far as to be Nazi-like in their actions against the Palestinians.
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