Genetic Memory

[river]

Short answer

More to come

epigenetics
ˌɛpɪdʒəˈnɛtɪks/
noun
BIOLOGY

1. the study of changes in organisms caused by modification of gene expression rather than alteration of the genetic code itself.

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Nyepi day here in Bali and hotel WiFi dodgy and I am missing a code password for my local pocket WiFi

Wrong .

Not specific enough

 

[Michael 345]

Wrong .

Not specific enough

Would you go for

epi·ge·net·ics
\ˌe-pə-jə-ˈne-tiks\
noun

• : the study of heritable changes in gene function that do not involvechanges in DNA sequence

First use: 1942

Mirriam-Webster

If this is going to be a PingPong my normal limit is 3 but there have been a few exceptions

 

[river]

Would you go for

epi·ge·net·ics
\ˌe-pə-jə-ˈne-tiks\
noun

• : the study of heritable changes in gene function that do not involvechanges in DNA sequence

First use: 1942

Mirriam-Webster

If this is going to be a PingPong my normal limit is 3 but there have been a few exceptions

Ping-Pong it is

 

[Michael 345]

Ping-Pong it is

Before we can analyze how epigenetics is being used by real scientists and abused by quacks, however, it’s necessary to explain briefly what epigenetics is. To put it succinctly (I know, a difficult and rare thing for me), epigenetics is the study of heritable traits that do not depend upon the primary sequence of DNA


https://www.google.com.au/amp/scien...t-think-it-means-what-you-think-it-means/amp/

Read the whole reference

 

[Michael 345]

Ping coming up

 

[Michael 345]

Ping-Pong it is

What is Epigenetics?

Epigenetics is the study of potentially heritable changes in gene expression (active versus inactive genes) that does not involve changes to the underlying DNA sequence — a change in phenotype without a change in genotype — which in turn affects how cells read the genes. Epigenetic change is a regular and natural occurrence but can also be influenced by several factors including age, the environment/lifestyle, and disease state. Epigenetic modifications can manifest as commonly as the manner in which cells terminally differentiate to end up as skin cells, liver cells, brain cells, etc. Or, epigenetic change can have more damaging effects that can result in diseases like cancer. At least three systems including DNA 3) group from S-adenosylmethionine to a cytosine nucleotide or lysine or arginine residue." class="glossaryLink " style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 0px; border-width: 0px 0px 1px; border-top-style: initial; border-right-style: initial; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-left-style: initial; border-color: initial; border-image: initial; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: 600; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; color: rgb(104, 163, 48);">methylation, histone modification and non-coding RNA (ncRNA)-associated gene silencing are currently considered to initiate and sustain epigenetic change.1 New and ongoing research is continuously uncovering the role of epigeneticsin a variety of human disorders and fatal diseases.

http://www.whatisepigenetics.com/fundamentals/

LAST ONE

 

[Michael 345]

Ping-Pong it is

Correction

This is last PING unless you PONG not just another definetion of epigenetics but some understanding of what was being claimed for epigenetics in the original post and what epigenetics can actually do

Which, the claim, is NOT, and never will be, the role of epigenetic changes

The claim of genetic changes transfering learnt memory is fanciful or a confusion at best of the claim vs the reality

Further reading

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Among the several recent developments in biomedical research that are being hyped as revolutionary, the science of epigenetics has inspired the boldest claims.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/psmag.com/amp/p/70c2cf0a3d27

 

[river]

Correction

This is last PING unless you PONG not just another definetion of epigenetics but some understanding of what was being claimed for epigenetics in the original post and what epigenetics can actually do

Which, the claim, is NOT, and never will be, the role of epigenetic changes

The claim of genetic changes transfering learnt memory is fanciful or a confusion at best of the claim vs the reality

Further reading

*
Among the several recent developments in biomedical research that are being hyped as revolutionary, the science of epigenetics has inspired the boldest claims.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/psmag.com/amp/p/70c2cf0a3d27

So what is epigenetics to you ?

 

[Michael 345]

So what is epigenetics to you ?

I can go with any of the definetions I have already provided

 

[river]

I can go with any of the definetions I have already provided

Which are ?

 

[Michael 345]

Which are ?

My previous post

 

[river]

My previous post

# the posts if you don't mind .

 

[Michael 345]

# the posts if you don't mind .

Tiresome

Bye bye

 

[river]

Tiresome

Bye bye

Bye bye , Tiresome .

When you won't provide the # posts for your argument , your argument is weak , you are weak .

 

[Michael]

Phylogenetic memory makes up the bulk of brain and spinal cord memory (reflexes, language centers, etc...); it's different from epigenetic memory - which we know little of in humans, though it appears to work through processes such as methylation of a DNA.

 

[Michael 345]

Phylogenetic memory makes up the bulk of brain and spinal cord memory (reflexes, language centers, etc...)

Not sure that is correct but if you have any reference supporting that I would like to read it

it's different from epigenetic memory - which we know little of in humans, though it appears to work through processes such as methylation of a DNA.

Correct but there is much research being done

The action though is more about how genes are expressed not acting on the content of the DNA of the gene

Methylation is one of four ways (4 from memory so I stand to be corrected if you know otherwise)

 

[Dinosaur]

From The God Post #75

But can we make a baby learn something while still in womb? Say after brain/baby is sufficiently developed.

The above (if possible) would not be memory transmitted genetically.

This issue seems to be one requiring extraordinary evidence. With some cogent theory & supporting evidence, it seems almost absurd to believe that learned abilities could be transmitted from the brain to either sperm or an ovum.

 

[The God]

From The God Post #75The above (if possible) would not be memory transmitted genetically.

This issue seems to be one requiring extraordinary evidence. With some cogent theory & supporting evidence, it seems almost absurd to believe that learned abilities could be transmitted from the brain to either sperm or an ovum.

1. Yes, it will not be genetic transfer of memory.

2. "Almost absurd to believe" has no meaning in science.

 

[Michael 345]

2. "Almost absurd to believe" has no meaning in science.

True

But even hard science looks at the not so common common sense and concludes

That makes sense

 

[timojin]

1
2. "Almost absurd to believe" has no meaning in science.

Do we believe the Neurons in the brain can be in certain way more organised and this form of order will have better disposition to acquire DATA, and the individuals with different organised Neurons will be more receptive to a certain stimulus .