Do you love America?

[pjdude1219]

Then prove it by answering the above question: Explain the difference between equal chances and equal opportunity.

BTW- I did not twist anything around. I don't need consensus, nor do I need "experts" to confirm my thoughts. Once again, it's called individual initiative. Again, marxist are against such things. That is why you need consensus and "experts" to back you up. Are you getting it yet? In short, you cannot think for yourself. You just proved it with your crybaby response to BR.

Oh give me the home, where the........

There is no difference between equal chances and equal opportunity. They mean the same thing.

I don't need consensus, nor do I need "experts" to confirm my thoughts. Once again, it's called individual initiative.

I don't need these things i use them because they make an arguement stronger. Once again you accuse my of being a marxist without any proof but your delusions

In short, you cannot think for yourself. You just proved it with your crybaby response to BR.

So because i happen to agree with the facts i can't think for my self? I believe in thinking for my self. i also believe on using the research of people who know more than me about a topic to help improve my ideas. Sadly you seem incapable of doing that.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

the republican party started out as the left wing party. the 2 main parties have switched in their right left status.

The Republican Party was never a Left Wing political organization, the Democrats were the one to move left, starting with FDR, and exacerbated by LBJ, the Republicans have always stood of Capitalism, Strong Military, Tough on Crime, and Personnel Rights.

There is no difference between equal chances and equal opportunity. They mean the same thing.

There is no such thing as Equal Chance , There is Equal Opportunity, and people who make the opportunity, are the people who take the chance, by getting there first, up early, stay late, get a education, be the first to the job interview, the first to come up with a new Idea, don't depend on anyone else to give them a opportunity, they make their own opportunities.

I don't need these things i use them because they make an arguement stronger. Once again you accuse my of being a marxist without any proof but your delusions

But you are a Marxist, you believe in taking from those who have and earn and giving it to yourself because you deam yourself needy.

So because i happen to agree with the facts i can't think for my self? I believe in thinking for my self. i also believe on using the research of people who know more than me about a topic to help improve my ideas. Sadly you seem incapable of doing that.

What facts?

Consensus, isn't fact and it isn't proof, consensus isn't scientific, consensus is a bunch of nobodies who are afraid to speak for themselves, and hide among the crowd.

 

[pjdude1219]

The Republican Party was never a Left Wing political organization, the Democrats were the one to move left, starting with FDR, and exacerbated by LBJ, the Republicans have always stood of Capitalism, Strong Military, Tough on Crime, and Personnel Rights.

do you know the history of the republican party? cause from this statement no you don't.

There is no such thing as Equal Chance , There is Equal Opportunity, and people who make the opportunity, are the people who take the chance, by getting there first, up early, stay late, get a education, be the first to the job interview, the first to come up with a new Idea, don't depend on anyone else to give them a opportunity, they make their own opportunities.

Only reason i said chance was i couldn't spell opportunity and i know your anal about spelling. also chance and opportunity are synanyms.

But you are a Marxist, you believe in taking from those who have and earn and giving it to yourself because you deam yourself needy.

Considering i have never said anything remotely close to that. If you researched marxism and had the decency to be honest about my beliefs you would know i am not.

What facts?

Consensus, isn't fact and it isn't proof, consensus isn't scientific, consensus is a bunch of nobodies who are afraid to speak for themselves, and hide among the crowd.

not replying to my quote but than not suprising.

 

[S.A.M.]

Consensus, isn't fact and it isn't proof, consensus isn't scientific, consensus is a bunch of nobodies who are afraid to speak for themselves, and hide among the crowd.

Which cave do you live in? Do you know the meaning of consensus?

 

[radicand]

There is no difference between equal chances and equal opportunity. They mean the same thing.

I don't need these things i use them because they make an arguement stronger. Once again you accuse my of being a marxist without any proof but your delusions
So because i happen to agree with the facts i can't think for my self? I believe in thinking for my self. i also believe on using the research of people who know more than me about a topic to help improve my ideas. Sadly you seem incapable of doing that.

You: he made continuous asserations going against the consensus and the expert views with no proof

The implications of this statement is that you need consensus and "expert" views to make an argument. Once again, this is a marxist philosophy. It is practiced daily in the mainstream media of America. Have you not ever noticed that only "experts" are allowed to comment on issues? And that expert is one who has received a high degree through one of our lovely universities of indoctrination. Then you say:I don't need these things and why because: they make an arguement stronger.

No, it is because you are incapable of making your own argument. You need those things to have an argument. The only proof I need of this is your list of what a marxist is. That list while certainly tenable was not indicative of the greater philosophy of marxism which is complete and absolute state control of society. Sadly, you seem incapable of diaagreeing with that sentiment. You have also made some pretty stock comments that reflect your belief.


So because i happen to agree with the facts i can't think for my self?


Is it really that you happen to agree with the facts? What the hell does that mean? Facts are not the same as analysis. Here is an analysis based on facts: there are two basic schools of thought in society individual responsibility or government responsibility. Those who believe in individual responsibility fall on the right side of the line (not axis, line). These people tend to be conservative, libertarian, and anarchist. Those who fall on the side of government responsibility (for individuals I mean) land on the left side of the line. These people tend to socialist, fascist, communists. Or in other words marxist. Now it is true that there is a center where both are mixed, but one tends to go towards a specific idea one starts placing themselves to that side of the line.

In America today, that center area has grown to include more government interference and unfortunately many republicans with it. Our nation, no thanks to Bush, has moved decided left.

That was my analysis of where we stand today. It was based on facts on individual responsibility v government responsibility. While I admit to this being my analysis, I truly believe it is spot on. I have concluded this on my own through my own studies. I did not need consensus, nor did I need an "expert" to help with these conclusions.

Name me one time you have sided with on individual responsibility? You haven't, therefore I can only conclude you are a marxist. Marxism is about more than what you posted previously. It is centered around the idea of governmental responsibility. Read the ten tenants of marxism and you will see what I mean.

So what facts are you talking about? I agree with facts too, if they are true. Sadly, you have shown that you are incapable of checking your facts to discover the truth.

But I am glad you decided to fight, instead of give in. Kudos to you for that!!!

 

[USS Athens]

On what do you base your statement that the U.S. is a police state? Do you have some solid proof of that? If so, I'd like to see it AND see it compared to other countries that ARE police states.

Military bases in other countries should be proof enough.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Which cave do you live in? Do you know the meaning of consensus?

Yes, I do, and consensus:

con·sen·sus Audio Help (kən-sěn'səs) Pronunciation Key
n.
An opinion or position reached by a group as a whole: "Among political women . . . there is a clear consensus about the problems women candidates have traditionally faced" (Wendy Kaminer).

See Usage Note at redundancy.

General agreement or accord: government by consensus.

Consensus, isn't fact and it isn't proof, consensus isn't scientific, consensus is a bunch of nobodies who are afraid to speak for themselves, and hide among the crowd.

Consensus is jut a general agreement be it right or wrong.

 

[USS Athens]

The Republican Party was never a Left Wing political organization, the Democrats were the one to move left, starting with FDR, and exacerbated by LBJ, the Republicans have always stood of Capitalism, Strong Military, Tough on Crime, and Personnel Rights.

Would it startle you in anyway to know that it was the republican party was the party that worked towards civil rights during the civil war?

Proof?

1. President Lincoln was a republican.
2. The Ku Klux Klan's terror served the democratic party.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Would it startle you in anyway to know that it was the republican party who worked towards civil rights during the civil war?

Proof?

1. President Lincoln was a republican.
2. The Ku Klux Klan's terror served the democratic party.

No, I am from the state were the Republican Party was formed.

And Yes, I know that the KKK was almost exclusively Democrats.

Just as I know that it was the Democrats from the South who set the Civil War in Motion.

I do Civil War Re-enacting, and history is my favorite subject.

I am 57 years old, and I learned history before it was popular to blame the U.S. for everything.

 

[S.A.M.]

Yes, I do, and consensus:

con·sen·sus Audio Help (kən-sěn'səs) Pronunciation Key
n.
An opinion or position reached by a group as a whole: "Among political women . . . there is a clear consensus about the problems women candidates have traditionally faced" (Wendy Kaminer).

See Usage Note at redundancy.

General agreement or accord: government by consensus.

Consensus, isn't fact and it isn't proof, consensus isn't scientific, consensus is a bunch of nobodies who are afraid to speak for themselves, and hide among the crowd.

Consensus is jut a general agreement be it right or wrong.

Guess how scientific opinion is established. Democratic governments, justice systems, laws, social change in non-dictatorial systems.

hint: not by authoritarian rule or marching brainlessly into foreign countries to kill people because someone else told you to.

 

[USS Athens]

No, I am from the state were the Republican Party was formed.

And Yes, I know that the KKK was almost exclusively Democrats.

Just as I know that it was the Democrats from the South who set the Civil War in Motion.

I'm glad that you know that, most of the people I know don't acknowledge this.

...and history is my favorite subject.

Among other things, history is one of my favorite subjects as well.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Guess how scientific opinion is established. Democratic governments, justice systems, laws, social change in non-dictatorial systems.

Opinion is established that way, science is not.

hint: not by authoritarian rule or marching brainlessly into foreign countries to kill people because someone else told you to.

And what does that have to do with consensus?

Just more of your brainless anti American diatribe.

 

[S.A.M.]

Opinion is established that way, science is not.

Oh so how is science established?

And what does that have to do with consensus?

Just more of your brainless anti American diatribe.

Soldiers are brainless, they are brainwashed to stop thinking independently.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Oh so how is science established?

Then just how exactly is science established with out experimentation, test and result?

Soldiers are brainless, they are brainwashed to stop thinking independently.

The only thing brainless here is you endless anti Americanism.

 

[Norsefire]

No, Sam, soldiers are trained to take orders, but they are still Human. The reason is because the military needs organization and hierarchy to run properly, and the soldiers who take orders now may be giving them tommorow.

They deserve respect, regardless of what country they fight for, and they're most certainly not "brainwashed freaks" or whatever yous aid.

 

[S.A.M.]

A good soldier is one who only follows orders, basically cannon fodder. It doesn't matter how far up you go in the military, they can only think in terms of killing people as victory. You won't find any forgiveness there, except for their own atrocities on other human beings.

 

[Norsefire]

A good soldier is one who only follows orders, basically cannon fodder.

But that's his duties. They willingly enlist, do they not, to serve their nations. And for this they deserve respect.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

A good soldier is one who only follows orders, basically cannon fodder.

The Outstanding soldier, is the one who knows when not to follow orders.

 

[S.A.M.]

The Outstanding soldier, is the one who knows when not to follow orders.

Like throwing nuclear bombs on civilians? Killing women and children? Torturing innocent people? Running death squads? Occupying foreign countries? Heh.

 

[pjdude1219]

You: he made continuous asserations going against the consensus and the expert views with no proof

The implications of this statement is that you need consensus and "expert" views to make an argument. Once again, this is a marxist philosophy. It is practiced daily in the mainstream media of America. Have you not ever noticed that only "experts" are allowed to comment on issues? And that expert is one who has received a high degree through one of our lovely universities of indoctrination. Then you say:I don't need these things and why because: they make an arguement stronger.

No, it is because you are incapable of making your own argument. You need those things to have an argument. The only proof I need of this is your list of what a marxist is. That list while certainly tenable was not indicative of the greater philosophy of marxism which is complete and absolute state control of society. Sadly, you seem incapable of diaagreeing with that sentiment. You have also made some pretty stock comments that reflect your belief.


So because i happen to agree with the facts i can't think for my self?


Is it really that you happen to agree with the facts? What the hell does that mean? Facts are not the same as analysis. Here is an analysis based on facts: there are two basic schools of thought in society individual responsibility or government responsibility. Those who believe in individual responsibility fall on the right side of the line (not axis, line). These people tend to be conservative, libertarian, and anarchist. Those who fall on the side of government responsibility (for individuals I mean) land on the left side of the line. These people tend to socialist, fascist, communists. Or in other words marxist. Now it is true that there is a center where both are mixed, but one tends to go towards a specific idea one starts placing themselves to that side of the line.

In America today, that center area has grown to include more government interference and unfortunately many republicans with it. Our nation, no thanks to Bush, has moved decided left.

That was my analysis of where we stand today. It was based on facts on individual responsibility v government responsibility. While I admit to this being my analysis, I truly believe it is spot on. I have concluded this on my own through my own studies. I did not need consensus, nor did I need an "expert" to help with these conclusions.

Name me one time you have sided with on individual responsibility? You haven't, therefore I can only conclude you are a marxist. Marxism is about more than what you posted previously. It is centered around the idea of governmental responsibility. Read the ten tenants of marxism and you will see what I mean.

So what facts are you talking about? I agree with facts too, if they are true. Sadly, you have shown that you are incapable of checking your facts to discover the truth.

But I am glad you decided to fight, instead of give in. Kudos to you for that!!!

well its nice to see you have finally shown your true colors as a right wing neocon hack.