Do you believe god communicates with me?

Do you believe god communicates with me?

  • yes

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • no

    Votes: 23 71.9%
  • i don't know

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • i don't care

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    32
Change is only one of the meanings. For most people it just means that they beat themselves up about it afterwords.

Why is it hard? We'are all selfish in one way or another, every now and again. After all, we're only human. :shrug:

why does that have to be a part of being human?

people can't even agree on what is righteous. some would argue that being selfish is a good thing. and when we do manage to deem something as being the right thing to do, we can't seem to do it. i think our instincts are flawed.
 
Why is it inconceivable to so many people that humans can see the benefits of love and being nice to each other without someone telling them?

You are underestimating us, and I can't decide if its pathetic or insulting.

i agree with you on this but i think the issue with people who cite a deity has to do with a sense of the spirit. they feel it was imparted to them by a spirit, not just something that they cognitively and dryly decided to do. it was a visceral, moving, feeling, living experience of understanding. in that sense, i can see how defining it as a god or what have you is a good tool to understanding it or explaining it to someone for them.

but i think there is a lot of blindspots too. as i mentioned before, there are little children who are extraordinarily and even innately understanding that we should love, care, respect and be honest etc. uh, believe it or not, some people are born very sweet and loving or even with some pure wisdom. there are even animals who have that innate understanding. some are naturally of this understanding before they are tainted in this world. there are even adults who just naturally understand this as well, religion or not.

i think a lot of discovery of virtue is working through all the lies and negative programming in life.
 
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Because we aren't meant to love everyone, it's an impossible expectation, and stupid besides. Do you really want to love me like you love your husband?

yes. why is it stupid? i see love as more of a valuation and an action, not in a romantic way necessarily. if love is unconditional then it doesn't depend on the circumstances of the relationship. it does however determine it's nature.
 
I don't think the content itself is so much the point here.
I think what really matters is that she has received a kind of personal confirmation or verification of what was until then only theory to her.

Most of us have quite noble theories about how we should be, what is right and what is wrong; but we tend to have quite a degree of doubt about them and adhere to them poorly.

I imagine that a personal revelation from God gives those theories a new quality, a visceral inspiration to transcend our doubts and a new level of adherence.


A moment of insight is worth a million prayers.

from reading your posts, you are a theist but you don't openly admit it probably because you don't want to be criticized.

instead you just subvertedly make these points.
 
You mean why would you think that? I have thought all kinds of strange things, sometimes it means nothing, just stream of consciousness.

no, i mean i was told that, and i wouldn't have been told that if it didn't mean anything.

come on spider you know the story. :confused:

god tells me to write a letter to somebody i don't know and i think it's a dumb idea and i try to get out of doing it. in the meantime the somebody gets sick and god tells me to send him flowers. i thought that was less awkward. so i sit down to write "get well soon. love, lori" and seven paragraphs of beautiful poetry comes of me. i continued to channel poetry from some being who was apparently not used to inhabiting a body! and in the middle of channeling the poetry god tells me to go get my bible and read the book of revelations. i did and when i got to chapter 12 i was interrupted by some other bizarre spiritual interaction, and then i'm told that i am the woman in chapter 12. then led to 2 john and told i was the lady this letter's addressed to, and then to the very end of the bible, and told i was the tree of life. and that wasn't the end of it.

now i don't know about your brain spider, but i am telling you with absolutely no uncertainty, that mine isn't capable of coming up with some shit like that.
 
in response to apparent codependent tendencies of certain members of sciforums, i was asked to create this poll. i have stated on this forum many times that god does communicate with me. Do you believe that or not? Why or why not?

i think my experience has already given me some pretty good insight as to what the results of this poll will be. i don't expect to be surprised. it's not that i don't care if people believe me. it's just that whether they do or not doesn't change anything for me. but if the results coddle the egos of some fellow sciforums members then fine.

i'd like to make it a little more interesting too by addressing some accusations from another thread here. does my stating that god communicates with me hurt you and if so, how and why? does it alienate you? does it make you feel threatened? why? do you think that either the communication itself or my belief in the communication and testimony regarding it would cause me to be to incapable of empathy and why?
I think God sends signs all the time, but most of the time we ignore them. I am thinking of the movie Bruce Almighty as an illustration, comic but true. I think God created nature and used nature to fulfill his plan through the Incarnation and everything leading up to it and its fulfillment, so we can expect natural signs. The problem as always is discernment. If we are in the habit of prayer, sacraments, Mass, scripture reading, penance, devotion etc. with the aim of knowing and doing God's will at all phases of our life, this will come naturally. If we are continually combatting God's will, insisting on our own will, it will be very likely we listen only to that which affirms our own decisions and ignore signs from God.
 
If we are in the habit of prayer, sacraments, Mass, scripture reading, penance, devotion etc. with the aim of knowing and doing God's will at all phases of our life, this will come naturally.

heh. or if this is all you do or think is the only way to understanding, then you will miss whatever 'signs' in life.
 
why does that have to be a part of being human?

people can't even agree on what is righteous. some would argue that being selfish is a good thing. and when we do manage to deem something as being the right thing to do, we can't seem to do it. i think our instincts are flawed.
I don't know. God doesn't talk to me.

Maybe we should file a complaint with quality control. :D
 
I don't know. God doesn't talk to me.

Maybe we should file a complaint with quality control. :D

there is nothing to denote that a 'god' speaks to her. that is how she sees it or that is what she calls it.

it could be called anything or explained in any number of ways.

after all, the bible even says lift up a rock and you will find me. that really means that the essence of life is everywhere so understanding can be found everywhere for good or ill.

the deeper understanding or insight of greater compassion is the recognition that we are all here in this life together.
 
no, i mean i was told that, and i wouldn't have been told that if it didn't mean anything.

come on spider you know the story. :confused:

god tells me to write a letter to somebody i don't know and i think it's a dumb idea and i try to get out of doing it. in the meantime the somebody gets sick and god tells me to send him flowers. i thought that was less awkward. so i sit down to write "get well soon. love, lori" and seven paragraphs of beautiful poetry comes of me. i continued to channel poetry from some being who was apparently not used to inhabiting a body! and in the middle of channeling the poetry god tells me to go get my bible and read the book of revelations. i did and when i got to chapter 12 i was interrupted by some other bizarre spiritual interaction, and then i'm told that i am the woman in chapter 12. then led to 2 john and told i was the lady this letter's addressed to, and then to the very end of the bible, and told i was the tree of life. and that wasn't the end of it.

now i don't know about your brain spider, but i am telling you with absolutely no uncertainty, that mine isn't capable of coming up with some shit like that.

It is though. Completely capable. Don't underestimate yourself. Do you mind if I ask how old you are?
 
You are, of course, entitled to think so.
I don't need your permission.

no, i mean i was told that, and i wouldn't have been told that if it didn't mean anything.

come on spider you know the story. :confused:

god tells me to write a letter to somebody i don't know and i think it's a dumb idea and i try to get out of doing it. in the meantime the somebody gets sick and god tells me to send him flowers. i thought that was less awkward. so i sit down to write "get well soon. love, lori" and seven paragraphs of beautiful poetry comes of me. i continued to channel poetry from some being who was apparently not used to inhabiting a body! and in the middle of channeling the poetry god tells me to go get my bible and read the book of revelations. i did and when i got to chapter 12 i was interrupted by some other bizarre spiritual interaction, and then i'm told that i am the woman in chapter 12. then led to 2 john and told i was the lady this letter's addressed to, and then to the very end of the bible, and told i was the tree of life. and that wasn't the end of it.

now i don't know about your brain spider, but i am telling you with absolutely no uncertainty, that mine isn't capable of coming up with some shit like that.

Everyone's is, even atheists. It's sad that you underestimate your own powers of creativity and empathy.

yes. why is it stupid? i see love as more of a valuation and an action, not in a romantic way necessarily. if love is unconditional then it doesn't depend on the circumstances of the relationship. it does however determine it's nature.
Then that's not really love, that's just empathy and fellowship with your fellow man, nothing wrong with that, even apes do it. But we are also commanded to love our enemies (child rapists, murderers, war criminals), that's not only unethical, it's perverse. But one thing is does do is reinforce the notion that you and I are flawed, since it's clearly an impossible command. We are made flawed and commanded to be well, it's the very model of a cult. The sooner we transcend these ideas the better.
 
what's amazing is there needs to be an experiment when there is evidence all around us.

does your pets know the bible? has it read the ten commandments?

yet their instinct (depending on it's nature) for love, sense of good-will, friendliness, even fair-play and empathy is evident in them, more or less. the instinct every living being has is self-preservation.

this is also seen in humans. some are more compassionate and understanding, some are less.
 
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