Do you believe god communicates with me?

Do you believe god communicates with me?

  • yes

    Votes: 6 18.8%
  • no

    Votes: 23 71.9%
  • i don't know

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • i don't care

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    32
in response to apparent codependent tendencies of certain members of sciforums, i was asked to create this poll.

Qualifying those tendencies as "codependent" already partly answers your question ...
(And people who actually are codependent aren't likely going to be able to talk about it openly. :eek:)


i have stated on this forum many times that god does communicate with me. Do you believe that or not? Why or why not?

I believe you. Because I believe that anything anyone says about God is a reflection of that person's consciousness about God.


In order to answer these questions, I need to go back in time, to a state I was in about a year ago - and I'm answering them because it should be interesting to understand such a perspective, and because I doubt anyone else here will offer many affirmative answers:


does my stating that god communicates with me hurt you and if so, how and why?

It makes me think that you are special, one of God's favorite children - while I am not. I feel left out of the "cool crew".


does it alienate you?

Yes. I get the impression that even though we can talk to eachother, we are from totally different worlds. This is an extremely alienating circumstance of communication. Something like suddenly finding oneself at a royal dinner, except that this time, the stakes are infinite.


does it make you feel threatened? why?

Yes. Because anyone who has superior knowledge could use it against me; this is a common experience.


do you think that either the communication itself or my belief in the communication and testimony regarding it would cause me to be to incapable of empathy and why?

It's more that by having this superb qualification and prilege of having God talk to you, you are in the position to be entitled not to care about others; but that we, the losers, have to care about others, while you, the winners, are entitled not to.
 
I didn't realize all the ideas of god were the same. So why all the conflict throughout history?

Indeed. The existence of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is a fine refutation of the idea that all revelations of god were the same.
 
why do you consider it boasting? i mean, it could be under certain circumstances that have more to do with my intent than the statement itself, but in particular in a forum where things like religion and the paranormal are intentionally discussed.

Your way of talking about God is extraneous to "official formal discussions about God".
When someone speaks about God in a manner like you do, to an audience like Sci, they are likely bound to be discredited.
 
Has he communicated any knowledge to Lori_7 that she could not have known on her own?
 
i am peaceful, and compassionate, and i've learned a lot. what do you want to know? what do you want from me?

You may indeed be peaceful, compassionate and wise. But you certainly don't appear to be extraordinary in those respects. In other words, you don't show me what I'd expect to see if an infinitely benevolent and infinitely powerful being, the creator of entire universes, had actually reached out and touched you. I'd expect that to be an utterly transformative event.

(I haven't been touched by any gods either, so I'm not saying anything about you that I wouldn't say about myself as well.)

why do you consider it boasting?

It's a pretty extraordinary claim.

so it's not based on my level of intelligence, but on an assumption you're making about god, and an experience i'm testifying to that's unrelated to my intelligence.

When I said that your claims that you communicate with God alienate me, I wasn't saying anything about God. I don't think that God exists, remember. Nor was I saying anything about your intelligence.

What alienates me in this situation is the idea of somebody saying flatly, 'That's what God revealed to me!' My only choice then is take or leave it. Disagreeing would be like spitting into the wind. Regular two-way human conversation becomes pretty much impossible when people start claiming divine authority for their views.

well, my revelation is to love people, and that communion makes life meaningful.

Those are wonderful things. It might not matter all that much where the idea came from. What's more important is what we do with it.
 
A single Right Answer, no, but I think we as humans can get better with time. Nature itself just does what works to continue...that's evolution. But we can make choices, whereas nature cannot.

i think there is a right answer, and one that over time will manifest into our biology, and into our dna according to the laws that govern the universe, whatever they are.
 
in response to apparent codependent tendencies of certain members of sciforums, i was asked to create this poll. i have stated on this forum many times that god does communicate with me. Do you believe that or not? Why or why not?

i think my experience has already given me some pretty good insight as to what the results of this poll will be. i don't expect to be surprised. it's not that i don't care if people believe me. it's just that whether they do or not doesn't change anything for me. but if the results coddle the egos of some fellow sciforums members then fine.

i'd like to make it a little more interesting too by addressing some accusations from another thread here. does my stating that god communicates with me hurt you and if so, how and why? does it alienate you? does it make you feel threatened? why? do you think that either the communication itself or my belief in the communication and testimony regarding it would cause me to be to incapable of empathy and why?

Sensation, sensation, sensation…

The God believer may but the result of indoctrination, the sources of which may be geographical, sociological, or familial, but I shall move on, in a bit, to those who utilize introspection and/or felt sensation.

Either way, they want it that the zillion galaxies of the universe are all there for their mammal, sapiens sapiens cause—the beginning of wrong thinking, to which is added on that life requires Life behind it, but that, suddenly, Life does not. We can see that there can be some emotional comfort of being taking care of gained by this here and in an afterlife.

The mistake is to posit a Being as fundamental, which no being can be. They want not just any old Being, but even an infinitely advanced one. No go.

Nor does the eternal basis of stuff or even nothing admit to any creation, as it was forever; however, emotion trumps logic, for some, and they will neglect reason or not care, for they do want what they want as their own exaggerated importance in the scheme of things. They don’t wish to be humble material creatures who have even been shown to have evolved from little things over 4 billion years.

The right hemisphere of the brain is much more holistic than the left, and may even emit a felt sensation of a presence that is wordless, it being a felt sensation. The right brain itself is the presence. One can even feel the right brain side getting a bit warmer when, say, considering a piece of furniture as a whole instead of inspected its details.

All in all, experiences of presences or gods is but the “second story” atop the neurological first floor, but believers are prone to neglect science or even bash it to keep their notions safe.

The mythic ages will die out as new generations come along, as it already seen in Europe and in the once stable U.S. northeast.

There is nothing to show for God, as expected, and everything to show against, a double whammy, yet emotion from introspection strives on, the blind leading the blind. It’s only human to do so.

They grasp for unscientific proofs, such as in OBEs, which are but of sleep paralysis and can even be chemically induced, and also employing terms, right and left, like ‘spirit’ which are “just said”, having been invented just for the occasion of the God beliefs, and even then proclaiming them as gospel truth, which is surely an overstatement and further a deception.

We’ve always had myths, but we didn’t always have science. As God vanishes and the world closes in, especially in these uncertain times, there will still be some who wish to appeal to magic, as something to hold onto to: yet, ‘magic’ has strings attached. A little more thought beyond the almost automatic stopping point of thinking no further reveals that we are already free to be, there being no need to restrict one’s self to the idea of some strict family father figure of ancient times, whom they. amazingly, even go on to speak for. Alas, myth will not save the world, but only retard it.
 
Your way of talking about God is extraneous to "official formal discussions about God".
When someone speaks about God in a manner like you do, to an audience like Sci, they are likely bound to be discredited.

what's happened to me is actually evidence of a lot of things people like to question and argue about out here. it's evidence to me. perhaps not to some because my life wasn't set up to be some scientific experiment. but imo, that's not the point of life.
 
Qualifying those tendencies as "codependent" already partly answers your question ...
(And people who actually are codependent aren't likely going to be able to talk about it openly. :eek:)

well i'm sure phlog is happy because he was right, whether he wants to talk about it or not.


I believe you. Because I believe that anything anyone says about God is a reflection of that person's consciousness about God.

according to the poll results, you're the only one.


In order to answer these questions, I need to go back in time, to a state I was in about a year ago - and I'm answering them because it should be interesting to understand such a perspective, and because I doubt anyone else here will offer many affirmative answers:




It makes me think that you are special, one of God's favorite children - while I am not. I feel left out of the "cool crew".




Yes. I get the impression that even though we can talk to eachother, we are from totally different worlds. This is an extremely alienating circumstance of communication. Something like suddenly finding oneself at a royal dinner, except that this time, the stakes are infinite.




Yes. Because anyone who has superior knowledge could use it against me; this is a common experience.




It's more that by having this superb qualification and prilege of having God talk to you, you are in the position to be entitled not to care about others; but that we, the losers, have to care about others, while you, the winners, are entitled not to.


the message i've received is to care about others. that communion is the answer, and is what gives life meaning and purpose. communion based on love and trust and honesty. i'm the one who's had this experience and i don't feel the same way you do about what it means. it doesn't make me more valuable than anyone. i've learned that we're all equally valuable even though we're different. i see lives like puzzle pieces, formed individually but when brought together make a big picture.
 
Lori did God tell you to come and write on this forum?

no, not specifically. my initial motivation in participating in the forum though was based on something god did impart to me years ago, and i felt the need to share. i saw this forum and thought it seemed like it was an appropriate place to express it.
 
So it seems to be a self-esteem problem. Don't be so down on yourself, most people underestimate our brains.
 
So it seems to be a self-esteem problem. Don't be so down on yourself, most people underestimate our brains.

my intelligence has never been a source of low self esteem to me; quite the opposite actually.
 
no, not specifically. my initial motivation in participating in the forum though was based on something god did impart to me years ago, and i felt the need to share. i saw this forum and thought it seemed like it was an appropriate place to express it.

Could you elaborate on what it is you need to share with us Lori, so I/we can understand you better?
 
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