I really shouldn't waste my time on posts like yours, but ....
Mikenostic said:
1. I don't give a rat's ass what you think.
Noted.
2. I already told you once, I'm not the only one who made my comments towards Orly given the lack of information she provided. So I know I'm not alone in this matter.
Let's see here: you were first out of the gate (
#11). You
got an answer (
12), but it wasn't enough for you (
14). Orleander answered you (
#8). You reiterated your sexual demands and made a general statement about women (
19). Shorty checked in because, hell any chance to give Orleander shit is good for her (
22). Orleander took exception to your generalization (
25); Spud Emperor offered comments (
26) both apt and supportive; Sowhatifit'sdark inquired about a certain detail (
#27). Lucifer's Angel answered Shorty (
28). Orleander answered Sowhatifit'sdark (
29). Shorty responded to LA (
30). Sowhatifit'sdark offered an assessment (31) that two tries seemed quick, but certain things could do the trick. LA continued riffing with Shorty on the notion of inexperienced, clumsy bad sex (
32,
34,
35,
36). You responded to Orleander by suggesting she was not a "decent girl" (
37). Shorty kept up with LA (
38 and gave you a thumbs-up (
39, and here's the thing, Mike: when it comes to criticizing Orleander, it's not a wise move to invoke Shorty for support. Those two, you might have noticed, are frequently at each other, as evidenced by her exchange with you (
41,
42). I left your car comment alone in large part because I don't follow Jaguar culture, but it really does seem out of line°. LA joined the presumption (
43), and then Orleander finally answered the issue (
44,
45). Shorty asked what she thought was an obvious question (
46); 15ofthe19 offered his thoughts and echoed the question (
47); Shorty kept on with her own naivete (
48). You proclaimed your right to judge (
49). And at that point, for other people's "contributions", the topic took a serious turn for the worse.
And, see, I actually thought about getting out my green hat and castigating people for wasting so much time on stupid digressions, but then again, that's what tends to happen with topic posts like these. So I took up a few of the issues in black ink (
62); Nietzschefan put in a worthy contribution to the general topic (
63), and then you proceeded to make yourself look even more ridiculous (
64). And, yes, you do have the right to look for the worst in everyone. And no, people are not obliged to think that makes you look smart. Which pretty much brings us up to date, as long as we include my response (
67), Orleander's two cents (
68), and your latest response (
70), which, by the way, speaks only poorly of you. Such as this:
Actually I'm neither, and I really think you are grasping for straws. You seem to be just talking out your ass now.
You seem to have missed a paragraph, Mike. Was that your plan, or would you like to try again?
Good lord. You and Tiassa are worse than my dogs for having to repeat shit to them over and over again. It's really getting tiresome.
Actually, Mike, what's tiresome is your piss-poor attitude. Do something about it.
First off, I said that I'm not going to wait a year for a girl to decide to have sex with me. That really doesn't correlate to your situation. Because I'm sure that my situation involves breaking up long before any engagement, let alone a wedding.
Good for you. Why don't you write down a list of your sexual demands and give them to the woman up front, like, as you're introducing yourself for the first time.
I've stopped seeing girls because they were bad kissers, but guess what, I didn't wait two fuckin years to do it; more like after only a few dates. I've known plenty of girls who stopped seeing guys (after one or a few dates as well) because they were bad kissers. I've nothing against them, because they didn't wait until after they were engaged to the guy to do it.
See the difference? Probably not.
I think it's incredibly stupid that you're getting offended because other people were raised and have lived according to different cultural standards. Orleander's way isn't mine, either. And I wouldn't put myself through that kind of relationship. But neither would I suggest, as you did in #19, that a woman who looked at relationships and sexuality differently not decent.
Secondly, at no time when you initially brought this up, did you mention he was a total perv, it took you three pages and 8 post from when you first mentioned 'for sexual reasons' to actually say why. To me, that's something you might want to include in your statement.
It only matters, Mike, to people like you who are desperate to judge their neighbors. That's
your freakin' problem. Don't make it other people's.
You don't want people assuming something? Either don't mention it at all, or be sure to include necessary information.
A good lesson for the future, I must confess. Orleander should always bear in mind that she will never be without a frothing, self-righteous judge of all that is decent just waiting to pounce on her.
Because no matter how you look at it, when you tell people that you called off a wedding because he was bad in bed (when you should have tested the waters way before that), they're going to put the blame on you.
An inaccurate statement on two counts. First, she found out before she got married, and that's good enough. It may not be to you, but you seem pretty set on the idea that a woman owes you sex, and quickly, in exchange for your interest. And, secondly, not everyone presumed the worst of Orleander.
Funny thing is, is that if you hadn't had those morals, you would have found out he was a total perv much sooner and you wouldn't have wasted all that time with him.
And that's hers to deal with. Life goes on. Oh, wait, I forgot to make sure that I'm not infringing on your right to be presumptuous and judgmental.
Once again, notice that I wasn't the only one that thought as such.
And once again, invoking Shorty as your justification just doesn't work on this occasion.
At least I don't need anyone debating for me. If you can't fight your own battles, don't post.
Go get your own green hat, and then you can tell people to not post. In the meantime, that ain't your call to make.
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Notes:
° but it really does seem out of line — In fact, it's also off-topic, so I don't have to give a damn about Jaguar culture. Let's see ... green hat? ... okay, there we go. Taken care of.
