Dear Believers, prove your god or gods is/aren't just fiction(s).

[bearer_of_truth]

Okay, so you'll go to jail for fraud in the name of God. Got it.

It's not fraud. I speak the truth. Those are real photographs of the Holy Spirit. Father God and Jesus are everywhere through God's Holy Spirit. I you did a search, you would find that photographs like these are taken all over the globe.

Just under the left hand of God the Father, you can see the Holy Spirit. He is not the dove. The Holy Spirit merely "descended" upon Jesus "like a dove".

The Heavenly and Earthly Trinities is an oil painting on canvas of c. 1675–1682 by the Spanish artist Bartolomé Esteban Murillo.​

 

[bearer_of_truth]

I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of god.

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perhaps that is true of every sane person.

I am sane and I can confirm the existence of God.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

No, you can repeat your claims about some god or gods.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

No, you can repeat your claims about some god or gods.

You asked for proof, so I gave you that what I have discovered.

Here is a painting called “Salvator Mundi(Savior of the World)”, by Leonardo da Vinci, with the Holy Spirit in the left hand of Jesus.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

What you or another believer has made up.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

What you or another believer has made up.

Do you believe that you are a spirit?

Here is a real photograph of a human spirit in a supernatural orb(bubble). These particular orbs are known in the Holy Bible as chariots of God. They are the works of the Holy Spirit.

The afterlife is real!​

 

[Pinball1970]

I propose evidence which suggest the truth about the existence of the Holy Spirit. This evidence would be admissible in a court of law.

The photographs that I will be presenting are of the Holy Spirit and some of His works. These photographs and videos have been a mystery to mankind for decades. The Holy Ghost is highly misunderstood in the world. Many have seen Him, but few have recognized Him. He is erroneously known as paranormal orbs, spirit orbs, angel orbs, and ghost orbs. Some people who have not seen orbs with their naked eyes believe them to be photographic anomalies. To understand the Holy Spirit, we must consult scripture. I will be using both the Old and New Testaments of the Holy Bible to support my argument.

Identifying the Holy Spirit

This is a photograph of the Holy Spirit descending like a dove as He did during the baptism of Jesus.

Here is a photograph of the Holy Spirit motionless.

Below is a painting of the Apostle Saint Andrew with the Holy Spirit upon Him.

The Halo is found in scripture as the Holy Spirit alighting and remaining upon Jesus.​

The Spirit of God and the Spirit are both one and the same Holy Spirit.

Mathew 3:16. When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him.

John 1:32. John testified saying, “I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and He remained upon Him.”

The center photograph above is of the Holy Spirit in His spiritual bodily form.

Luke 3:22. And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

The Holy Spirit alighting and remaining upon Jesus appeared as a Halo.

So you proposed stupid nonsense about medicine regarding god which made zero sense to begin with and now you are telling us you have a "photograph?"
A photograph of Jesus? Who took it?
With what camera?

 

[bearer_of_truth]

So you proposed stupid nonsense about medicine regarding god which made zero sense to begin with and now you are telling us you have a "photograph?"
A photograph of Jesus? Who took it?
With what camera?

I do not have pictures of Jesus. I have taken many pictures like these with a digital camera and can vouch for their authenticity.

Here's a real photograph of what appears to be a mirrored image of a fallen angel in a spiritual orb, with horns along it's eyebrows.

This devil would have powers and could rule over us in hell. A good reason to fear God. Jesus delivers the repentant believer from this kind of evil and the evil within us. By the power of God, our souls must be salvaged/restored to the inbreathe of creation when God looked upon mankind and said we were good. And, in this way we are reborn, spiritually, before we enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen​

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Do you believe that you are a spirit?

Here is a real photograph of a human spirit in a supernatural orb(bubble). These particular orbs are known in the Holy Bible as chariots of God. They are the works of the Holy Spirit.

The afterlife is real!​

My spirits are certified 100 proof. Which means they have a lot more proof than you do.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I do not have pictures of Jesus. I have taken many pictures like these with a digital camera and can vouch for their authenticity.

Here's a real photograph of what appears to be a mirrored image of a fallen angel in a spiritual orb, with horns along it's eyebrows.

This devil would have powers and could rule over us in hell. A good reason to fear God. Jesus delivers the repentant believer from this kind of evil and the evil within us. By the power of God, our souls must be salvaged/restored to the inbreathe of creation when God looked upon mankind and said we were good. And, in this way we are reborn, spiritually, before we enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen​

I used to do those with a Apple Computer, c. 1983.

 

[bearer_of_truth]

I used to do those with a Apple Computer, c. 1983.

These photographs and I are real. We are not fake. And, I'm not intelligent enough to be making this stuff up.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I agree to the last.

 

[Trek]

Faith is not a response to that, it's a dodge. We've had several thousand years for such proof to be found and so far, nada.

Let’s guess…
If we can’t provide proofs for atheists (the irony)..
It’s “therefore God does not exist” fuzzy wuzzy feeling of joy.
Do you think you can live with the idea of no actual God?
Not even having the idea of God etched in your mind like it is today?
Your position is very strange.
Unicorns literally haven’t popped into my head since the last one of you guys mentioned it.
And the only reason I summoned it to my mind was to use it the show the real difference in what your atheism, a need to maintain a straw man idea of God, then spend time and effort disbelieving it, compared to my atheism (if unicorns were deemed gods), complete lack of belief, based on the forgetfulness, and the uselessness of keeping this nonsense almost everyday for years, within my mind, just to justify my lack of belief in something that I claim to lack a belief in. I just don’t talk about it mate, because i don’t believe unicorns, and I won’t waste my time and effort trying justify my own position

 

[DaveC426913]

This is a photograph of the Holy Spirit descending like a dove as He did during the baptism of Jesus.

That is the world's tiniest picture. The Hoy Spirit seems a lot more adorable than I would have thought.

Here is a photograph of the Holy Spirit motionless.​

How do you know this? Where did this picture come from? Where was it taken? Who took it? What were they looking at when they took it? What is the scale?

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Are you sure this isn't just a neat image pulled off the internet? Because a reverse Google search turns up this image with some very different explanations.


A much much better explanation is that these are motes, particles or distant objects seen through highly out of focus optics.
They are so common it could be any one of a number of things:
- a microbe or speck under a microscope that is out of focus
- a dust particle in the air, taken with a camera that is out of focus
- a star imaged in a telescope that is out of focus

Here is a quick and dirty sampling.

 

[DaveC426913]

Let’s guess…
.... ... uselessness of keeping this nonsense almost everyday for years, within my mind, just to justify my lack of belief in something that I claim to lack a belief in. I just don’t talk about it mate, because i don’t believe unicorns, and I won’t waste my time and effort trying justify my own position

, he said, talking about it a lot, wasting time and effort trying to justify his own position...


To all: bearer has done us the courtesy of offering up his evidence of the Holy Spirit. We don't need to bicker over beliefs. Why don't we just look at the pictures provided and ask what makes him sure they're the Holy Spirit?

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Let’s guess…
If we can’t provide proofs for atheists (the irony)..
It’s “therefore God does not exist” fuzzy wuzzy feeling of joy.
Do you think you can live with the idea of no actual God?
Not even having the idea of God etched in your mind like it is today?
Your position is very strange.
Unicorns literally haven’t popped into my head since the last one of you guys mentioned it.
And the only reason I summoned it to my mind was to use it the show the real difference in what your atheism, a need to maintain a straw man idea of God, then spend time and effort disbelieving it, compared to my atheism (if unicorns were deemed gods), complete lack of belief, based on the forgetfulness, and the uselessness of keeping this nonsense almost everyday for years, within my mind, just to justify my lack of belief in something that I claim to lack a belief in. I just don’t talk about it mate, because i don’t believe unicorns, and I won’t waste my time and effort trying justify my own position

I have never been religious. Never. Nice of you to fail so badly.

 

[davewhite04]

Faith is not a response to that, it's a dodge. We've had several thousand years for such proof to be found and so far, nada.

How can you prove something supernatural by using natural means? You'll have to get born again(Christianity) to *feel* God. Or so they say....

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

How can you prove something supernatural by using natural means? You'll have to get born again(Christianity) to *feel* God. Or so they say....

Let's start with "how can you prove something supernatural..."

You can't.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Your codicil is not valid because it requires one to be as deluded as the believers. That should, in a sane world, be grounds for commitment to a robust institution.

 

[DaveC426913]

I speak the truth.

It doesn't work that way.
You speak your belief of the truth, like everyone else.

Those are real photographs of the Holy Spirit.

So you claim. Why should we believe you?

Father God and Jesus are everywhere through God's Holy Spirit.

I'm afraid here you won't get away with that.

This devil would have powers and could rule over us in hell. A good reason to fear God. Jesus delivers the repentant believer from this kind of evil and the evil within us. By the power of God, our souls must be salvaged/restored to the inbreathe of creation when God looked upon mankind and said we were good. And, in this way we are reborn, spiritually, before we enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Amen​

Look, this is a discussion forum. What you are doing here is preaching. That is frowned upon - as specified in the rules you agreed to when you signed up here.

If you want to discuss, offer something to discuss - i.e. a dialogue - you say something, we respond, you address the response, and so on.