Policemen, just like gangsters, are people capable of breaking the law. You cannot empower one and expect to banish the other.
The only way to get rid of gangs is to prevent people from joining them.
Dealing with criminal gangs
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Policemen, just like gangsters, are people capable of breaking the law. You cannot empower one and expect to banish the other.
The only way to get rid of gangs is to prevent people from joining them.
The only way to prevent gangs forming is to prevent people wanting money.
peace.
peace.
Or we could form a vigilante group to fight the criminal gangs, perhaps funded by prostitution, protection and drug selling.
Ophiolite
Valued Senior Member
Ophiolite said:
But you say this:
I have determined,, using sound psychologicall techniques, that you are a potential criminal. For the good of society you must be eliminated. Please take care of this matter immediately.
kmguru
Staff member
That means creating an environment where there is
1. less single mothers barely surviving
2. job opportunity for minorities
3. less family violence
4. less child abuse
5. less jail time, more rehabilitation
"Do the crime, do the time" has serious blowback....so is super high divorce rates....
I never said it would be easy...
Why? I'm being serious here. There is a such thing called criminal psychology, and if we understand the criminal mind and what leads to it, we can hopefully prevent it.
kmguru
Staff member
Not quite... In Utah, Idaho they are white....In Columbus, white gangs stake out the rich neighborhoods and burglarize as they blend in....
Challenger78
Valued Senior Member
You turn into what you fight..
I've given up responding to his posts in an intelligent manner.
There's two core types of gangs Norse and each of them should be treated very differently.
There are violent adult gangs which take the form of hate groups, drug smugglers, arms dealers, religious cults, kidnappers, etc. I fully agree they should be treated like terrorists (more involving the military than police).
Then there are violent youth gangs and 100% of them are the result of poor parenting. Children are stupid and need their power + freedom controlled by their parents in accordance to their behavior. If parents fail and their child ends up arrested as a gang member then the child should be put into foster care and the parents given the option of a very hefty fine or a legally binding agreement not to reproduce for 10 years.
I agree as well. The problem is, all these stupid liberals aren't willing to make sacrifices! I'd sacrifice a few petty liberties for my own security and the order and peace that society will obtain.
We need to empower the police and give them the proper equipment; however, I am not blind. I understand that they might abuse their power, and therefore we should, of course, have systems to hold them accountable. Nonetheless, more police and better police can only benefit us. That is, unless you're a criminal. I love police. Every time I see an officer, I thank him.
It's too late by then; I agree that we should educate people, to help them avoid gangs, and that we should provide support for the failing infrastructure of "ghettos". However, after they have joined a criminal gang, they are terrorists and should be treated as such without leniency or exception.
Pandaemoni
Valued Senior Member
You are so not against crime, you liberal. If you were really opposed to crime, you'd demand that all crimes be capital offenses, not just "any affiliation with a gang." Murder? Dead. Manslaughter? Dead. Rape? Dead. burglary? Dead. Drug use? Dead. Jaywalking? Dead.
You are so against crime that you want to make merely having any connection to a gang a capital offense and to authorize military assaults on U.S. urban areas (despite the obvious collateral damage that would cause).
Yeah, that's kind of nutty, but the odd thing is that is you do noty see why that's kind of nutty, *that* lack of insight is even more nutty!
Without rights there is no trust and that leads to civil wars. Africa is a great example of that.
The police's job is to protect and serve. For pure violent force, the military should be used.
I disagree. If a childs basic needs are met and their freedoms restricted / granted based on behavior they nearly always get their shit together. Ghetto's are and always will be a lost cause. Those children need foster parents.