dressing in a certain way conveys no clues.
never mind the bitches
do you dress for the occasion?
why?
dressing in a certain way conveys no clues.
Are these valid questions?
Codanblad said:
even if the victim is known to the rapist, did the victim's clothes influence the rapist's decision?
whether the rapist's motivation was sexual, or a need for power, or love of violence, or the adrenaline rush - did the victims clothes help them pick a target?
does a girl in slutty clothes appear more vulnerable? wouldn't that appeal to rapists?
Randwolf said:
... preclude you from contemplating any possibility of similarities between a male victim of violence, and a female victim of violence?
a convicted rapist, ja?
who here is arguing in behalf of him?
never mind the bitches
do you dress for the occasion?
why?
Straw man, keep it in context, the context is women should dress conservatively to avoid the attention of rapists. Stick to the topic.
Straw man, nobody has defined that, I was picking holes in Codanblad's scenario. Stick to the topic.
if you don't like being harassed. (I couldn't fit all that in the title...)
Let me put it this way. If I rounded up a horde of mentally deranged man hating uberfeminists and roamed the countryside throwing napalm at any males who were out after dark, would you tell them they were asking for it and should have been sensible and 'taken precautions', since they were aware that me and my cohort of napalm-throwing misandrists were out on the rampage??!!
Nope, I thought not.
OP: Don't dress like a slut if if you don't like being harassed.
Synopsis of reactions:
1. She's "asking" for it...
Literally - desires it... OF COURSE NOT
2. It influences the "probability" of harassment....
Too inflammatory to discuss...
Debate: a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints
Analogy: a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based
So, sniffy, you ignoramus, do you refuse to debate this issue, or do your hormones simply preclude you from contemplating any possibility of similarities between a male victim of violence, and a female victim of violence?
I would suppose that your well thought out stance is simply - "Rape is bad, therefore we can't discuss it" .... therefore .... we can't entertain whether our actions influence our destinies, as it pertains to this subject?
Or, perhaps you have a much more pertinent argument that does not depend on hypotheticals?
I await your profound response...
Women get raped even if they're not wearing anything slutty, even if they're covered up head to toe, even if they're not that pretty. There is nothing a woman can do to provoke a man to rape her.
you're right that women get raped in all kinds of clothes.
do you think slutty clothes might entice a rapist though? a person who is capable or rape, but without a victim in mind, might be persuaded by his dick after seeing a chick wearing revealing clothes. rape can be an act of passion.
stories in aussie media said that lebanese gang rapists raped women who the lebs felt dressed like sluts. this is a clearcut case of 'dont dress like a slut to lower your chance of being raped'. so at least under some circumstances the argument held true.
i understand that in most cases rape is with people who know each other, and that its more to do with power than sex, blah blah blah i know the facts. all i'm saying is there are situations where rapists are influenced towards rape by what people wear.
rapists?
as in convicted?
i'd say you were desperately defying everything i say because you see everything in black and white.
everything you say misses the point of what i've said. the park will be dark away from lamp posts. use ur fucking brain.
does a girl in slutty clothes appear more vulnerable? wouldn't that appeal to rapists?
sniffy and phlogistician
whatever. i don't think you listen to a word i say, your 'womens rights' agenda overrides everything. you both think i'm a rapist or something, and perceive my posts as opportunities for you to attack me.
my use of the word slut comes from the title. i'm sorry i wasn't politically correct enough for you guys, but that's all there is to it. i wasn't denigrating women etc. Saying 'women dressing sluttily are more likely to get raped' is a statement, rather than an opinion. its either true or false, it doesn't stem from any kind of sexism, just my understanding of the motives of rapists. its only in league with the idea that dressing like a slut is asking to be raped, that it justifies rape, that it becomes despicable. and i abhor such a perspective.
if you guys don't think that there's a possibility a man's inclination to rape someone would be affected by attire, fine. agree to disagree, and lets move on. i don't think i have the patience to take the matter any further.
sniffy and phlogistician
whatever. i don't think you listen to a word i say, your 'womens rights' agenda overrides everything.
you both think i'm a rapist or something, and perceive my posts as opportunities for you to attack me.
my use of the word slut comes from the title.
and when they dressed like a slut
does a girl in slutty clothes appear more vulnerable
Saying 'women dressing sluttily are more likely to get raped' is a statement, rather than an opinion. its either true or false,
it doesn't stem from any kind of sexism,
just my understanding of the motives of rapists.
its only in league with the idea that dressing like a slut is asking to be raped, that it justifies rape, that it becomes despicable. and i abhor such a perspective.
if you guys don't think that there's a possibility a man's inclination to rape someone would be affected by attire, fine. agree to disagree, and lets move on. i don't think i have the patience to take the matter any further.
sniffy and phlogistician
whatever. i don't think you listen to a word i say, your 'womens rights' agenda overrides everything. you both think i'm a rapist or something, and perceive my posts as opportunities for you to attack me.
my use of the word slut comes from the title. i'm sorry i wasn't politically correct enough for you guys, but that's all there is to it. i wasn't denigrating women etc. Saying 'women dressing sluttily are more likely to get raped' is a statement, rather than an opinion. its either true or false, it doesn't stem from any kind of sexism, just my understanding of the motives of rapists. its only in league with the idea that dressing like a slut is asking to be raped, that it justifies rape, that it becomes despicable. and i abhor such a perspective.
if you guys don't think that there's a possibility a man's inclination to rape someone would be affected by attire, fine. agree to disagree, and lets move on. i don't think i have the patience to take the matter any further.