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parmalee said:
Given that Trump has now unambiguously declared himself a tyrant, with "total authority," I am now revising my "speculation" about "taking (him) out." It is now a fairly straightforward declaration. Depending upon one's philosophical inclinations, it is either one's right or one's duty to resist tyranny--by force, if necessary. The most direct enunciation of that is found within the French Constitution (1793), which is non-applicable, I suppose; but, it's comparably unambiguous in the Declaration of Independence, so...

There's strategic and tactical concerns, of course, but... it is what it is.
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Yes the 2nd amendment comes to the fore and my guess is that there will be some extreme thinking going on right now...
 
billvon said:
Uh - weren't you the one recently screaming that no one would take your "pressure perpetual motion machine" seriously?
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Ahh of all the arguments I have won that was amazing...
The insight that thread provided was stunning in implications, but not for your deluded attempt to distract the thread to PPMM's.
But of course the insight gained is beyond you...
 
billvon said:
About a million people, apparently.
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I really don't know much about Uber or Lyft, but those Amazon product fulfillment centers sound pretty awful and they've got extremely high employee turnover--a lot of people only put in a few weeks, at most. I'd venture than many/most who work there don't really want to work there.

Of course. And most Americans would consider Rauschenberg's work as worthless and certainly not an example of excellence. "It's so . . . messy. My kid could do that!"
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Throughout history, most cultures have acknowledged the intrinsic value in unusual, and, perhaps, seemingly pointless occupations and pastimes--whether that be writing poetry, staring at one shoes, or simply unspecified leisure. Via some unknown mechanism, they keep the gears turning smoothly. Plenty of individual Americans, and certain movements, do as much, but we are largely conditioned to perceive such as malingering or as utter and complete wastes of time. Were Thoreau and Whitman around today, they'd likely be branded as traitors of a sort.
 
Seriously, because of poor federal leadership the USA stands a good chance of being totally decimated health and economically..
and what are Americans going to do about it... nothing!
 
parmalee said:
I really don't know much about Uber or Lyft, but those Amazon product fulfillment centers sound pretty awful and they've got extremely high employee turnover--a lot of people only put in a few weeks, at most. I'd venture than many/most who work there don't really want to work there.
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Then they would leave. The benefit they get outweighs the drawbacks for the people who work there.
Throughout history, most cultures have acknowledged the intrinsic value in unusual, and, perhaps, seemingly pointless occupations and pastimes--whether that be writing poetry, staring at one shoes, or simply unspecified leisure.
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Agreed there.
Via some unknown mechanism, they keep the gears turning smoothly. Plenty of individual Americans, and certain movements, do as much, but we are largely conditioned to perceive such as malingering or as utter and complete wastes of time. Were Thoreau and Whitman around today, they'd likely be branded as traitors of a sort.
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?? There are plenty of poets and writers being paid to do what they do today. No one considers them traitors. And there are even more who work some other job and STILL write great stuff. Historically Melville, Chekhov, Stoker, Kafka, and Eliot all held down jobs while they did their best work in literature. Eliot was actually offered funding so he could write full time and he turned it down; he preferred working at a bank (and later as a director in a publishing house.)
 
Quantum Quack said:
Seriously, because of poor federal leadership the USA stands a good chance of being totally decimated health and economically..
and what are Americans going to do about it...
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States have taken over for the federal government's failures. Result - deaths have peaked and are starting to decline.
 
billvon said:
?? There are plenty of poets and writers being paid to do what they do today. No one considers them traitors. And there are even more who work some other job and STILL write great stuff. Historically Melville, Chekhov, Stoker, Kafka, and Eliot all held down jobs while they did their best work in literature. Eliot was actually offered funding so he could write full time and he turned it down; he preferred working at a bank (and later as a director in a publishing house.)
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I was being facetious--but I was also speaking specifically to their praise of idleness.
 
billvon said:
States have taken over for the federal government's failures. Result - deaths have peaked and are starting to decline.
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One of the main reasons why Australia (and New Zealand) have been so successful is because the Federal Government managed to create a National cabinet that included all states at the one table.
It is only because all the states and the federal government are coordinated that success is possible.
Cross border infections have been stopped. International arrivals infections have been stopped.

Until the United States actually becomes united you are in for a really long battle... but Trump's obvious incompetence will make sure this can not happen...and therefore the people who let him do what he does will make sure this does not happen.

btw media here are reporting another daily fatality record for the USA.. 2300+ last 24 hours
 
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parmalee said:
Possibly intentional double entendre. Unless it was Fox. They do stupid shit like that all the time. Nicaragua and Honduras were once described onscreen as "Mexican countries."

Given that Trump has now unambiguously declared himself a tyrant, with "total authority," I am now revising my "speculation" about "taking (him) out." It is now a fairly straightforward declaration. Depending upon one's philosophical inclinations, it is either one's right or one's duty to resist tyranny--by force, if necessary. The most direct enunciation of that is found within the French Constitution (1793), which is non-applicable, I suppose; but, it's comparably unambiguous in the Declaration of Independence, so...

There's strategic and tactical concerns, of course, but... it is what it is.
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It was Fox lol I don’t really watch one specific news network - maybe if I jumble them up, I’ll get a balanced report?
 
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