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I honestly don't judge an entire country's population, based on its leader. However, Trump has quite a following, indeed. But, judge those people, not all of us who dislike Trump. He has a 49% approval rating the last time I checked, that means 51% don't approve. They're Americans, too!
Trump has by his own actions, made it so the world does judge the USA by it's leader..just look at his daily updates... laughable... truly...
I've stop watching them ...made me feel ill...
 
Would it be correct in inferring that the 49% minority are citizens with the typical American minded gun culture?
Um, possibly. It's funny, but living in the US, I don't view it as a ''gun culture'' as much as a violent culture. Example, domestic violence, unnecessary hunting, factory farming, human trafficking, rape, etc. ''Gun culture'' is part of a larger problem, I think.

Is this aspect of American life so difficult for them to let go? Obviously yes to the last question.
Read the above. I don't see anything wrong with a person owning a gun for protection, especially if he/she lives in a dangerous area. But, I don't think you're speaking about those types. I've never owned a gun, so I honestly couldn't tell you the mindset behind gun enthusiasts.
 
Read the above. I don't see anything wrong with a person owning a gun for protection, especially if he/she lives in a dangerous area. But, I don't think you're speaking about those types. I've never owned a gun, so I honestly couldn't tell you the mindset behind gun enthusiasts.
I'm actually referring to the near fanatical rage that is obvious when any sort of gun control is mentioned. Or is that just the NRA?
 
I'm actually referring to the near fanatical rage that is obvious when any sort of gun control is mentioned. Or is that just the NRA?
Yea, I think the media blows that out of proportion. The US has a violence problem, guns are a part of it. If it focused on the root of the problem, gun ownership might go down.
 
QQ - why are you accusing billvon of wanting to bring down sciforums? lol That's hilarious.
 
The fact is that Trump IS the face of America to all those who live outside the USA.
He has withdrawn the USA from just about every international agreement that the USA had with out what appears to be legitimate reasons.
He has forced the international community to consider the USA as untrustworthy when it comes to treaties or agreements.
He has failed to grasp that globalization is inevitable and that the long term and respected leadership the USA had provided ( with exceptions of course ) is no longer considered as possible.

He is the face of America and all Americans are tainted by his "face"...his values , morals and ethics are deemed to be typical of Americans.
The current crisis in the USA provided him with and opportunity to bring the nation together and consolidate the union. He failed to do so. He in fact divided the union even more so with threats and intimidation.

...and even after all this the world is looking at another 4 years and possibly more because for sure Trump will attempt to revoke the fixed 2 term amendments and what is more the USA will probably allow him to do so..

So what are we outside the USA to think?
How about trying to think in the first place? You are obsessed with the U.S. for some reason.

The majority of people didn't choose Trump so why go on and on about it. This and insane theories are all you've got going on it appears.
 
Then they would leave. The benefit they get outweighs the drawbacks for the people who work there.
Which is always true of miserable situations that nobody sane would mistake for "opportunity".

An unregulated corporate class can always arrange things so that the penalties for not working for them are severe enough to drive most people in the door. And that situation - corporations escaping government regulation, allowed a free hand in setting up everyone's lives for their benefit - is very common, especially in the US compared with other First World countries.

That's why it's so bizarre to see someone defend their careless assertion that the US provides more opportunities for its citizens than other countries by posting a list of employers, claiming that people with jobs obviously have more opportunity than those without jobs, and so forth.

Jobs provide opportunity belongs in the same category of contention that "Work makes one free" is in.

Which is just the standard defense of the political stagnation and New Deal rollback so familiar to Americans since 1980,
but with the recent development that this underlying presumption of American superiority involved - most opportunity, best health care, higher standard of living, etc etc - is now killing lots of Americans who do not belong to the designated victim demographic groups.

It's not that Republican governance suddenly became corrupt and incompetent in 2019. It's still the shameless Reagan standard clusterfuck of contractor fraud and influence peddling.

It's that an unusual amount of the cost of that corruption and incompetence suddenly fell on rich white men. Not their share according to their responsibility and benefits, of course - nothing silly like that; the dead and the bankrupt and the scarred for life are going to be predominantly from the standard supply, likewise the profiteers and beneficiaries of crisis - but nevertheless a significant share.
Viruses are not only bad for business, but they actually kill rich people sometimes - and cripple them, hurt them, scare them, put them under nightmarish medical care regimens, etc. Meanwhile they are making disconcerting discoveries about their ability to do anything about it: that bs about the deep State? They'd repeated it so often they'd come to believe it themselves - and in the back of their minds they were counting on that State to take over in emergencies. Come to find out it isn't there - when Trump dismantled the shallow State of functioning agencies that Obama's administration had partly recreated from the debris left them by W&Cheney, he dismantled all the government there was.

It's like when the decadent aristocracy that's been embezzling from the military budget for decades suddenly finds itself facing an actual military assault from a real enemy - they don't know what to do. And the virus isn't cutting them any slack.
 
QQ - why are you accusing billvon of wanting to bring down sciforums? lol That's hilarious.

well, for one he is constantly breaking forum rules for off topic posting. Fails to deal with the issue and has made all his posts ad hom and uhmm... what else filling this thread with BS dishonest cowardly personal attacks..and any reader has to deal with that constantly so of course the credibility of this forum is ruined...
 
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How about trying to think in the first place? You are obsessed with the U.S. for some reason.

The majority of people didn't choose Trump so why go on and on about it. This and insane theories are all you've got going on it appears.
make a good thread that would... why don't you start it...
 
well, for one he is constantly breaking forum rules for off topic posting. Fails to deal with the issue and has made all his posts ad hom and uhmm... what else filling this thread with BS dishonest cowardly personal attacks..and any reader has to deal with that constantly so of course the credibility of this forum is ruined...
Billvon?
 
Which is always true of miserable situations that nobody sane would mistake for "opportunity".
A miserable job is better than no job. (If not they can always leave.) And Amazon employees rate their jobs better than the national average rating.
An unregulated corporate class can always arrange things so that the penalties for not working for them are severe enough to drive most people in the door.
"Penalties?" Like not having any money? Are you claiming that the unregulated corporate class has cleverly arranged the world so that money is used as a medium of exchange? Fascinating claim.

Will your next claim be that the unregulated corporate class has cleverly arranged the world so that people live far from where they work, and thus are required to buy expensive cars? Have they cleverly arranged the world so that cattle is raised on farms far from where they live, and thus people are required to buy expensive food, and thus are penalized if they don't work for Amazon?

Curious to see how deep this rabbit hole goes.
That's why it's so bizarre to see someone defend their careless assertion that the US provides more opportunities for its citizens than other countries by posting a list of employers, claiming that people with jobs obviously have more opportunity than those without jobs, and so forth.
I know you don't understand. From your worldview it's not possible to understand that sort of opportunity.
 
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