China's Emergence As A Global Superpower

It's a lie in newspaper, I am telling you.
May be, but I prefer to believe what I read in reputable newspaper*, if forced to chose to believe either them or "your word" on this.
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*The Folio de Sao Paulo. It does has it own agents in China. For example, Their resident reporter, Claudia Trevisan, is the source of the "China now has 100 billionairs" I mented earlier to day (in contrast to the only 7 in 2005, etc.

Sao Paulo, fourth largest city in the world, has two of the best newspapers in the world (if you do not mind much of their news being a day late opr stolen from internet sources like Bloomberg.) this because they freely steal form all the world's best papers, new channels, investment services etc. - I am glad I can read them every as as sort of a well done "reader's digest" of yesterday's news!

Claudia's article on the Chinese billionar surge may be original as I have not yet seen that at bloomberg etc. It is rare, but occasionaly the NY times, etc steal for the Folio etc.
 
How is an unmammed mission going to .....
As I understand it, China hope to place a man on the moon in about a decade (do not remember the time scale accurately) all by itself. Perhase Russia and China will launch from tropical parts of China, instead of Russia's space port which is at apporximately 50 degrees North latitude? In any case, again as I understand it, China is not planning to put a man on Mars for decades and then only in a cooperative program with Russia.
 
Billy T get it out of your head, Russia will not and does not plan on having any joint space missions with China.
 
ok well did the newspaper mention any sort of names? details?
Yes they did, even had an interview and picture of the leader of the Chinese maned space program - told that it was separate from the militray program, which dose not let any launches be photographed.Even he has not seen one from there, as I recall the report. I can not possibly rember his name. (Probably something like Chin Chan Wu etc. :D)* He wore glasses and looked the part.
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*No offense intended to Chinese readers. - Only trying to be fiunny while explaning why I have no idea now about his name.)
 
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Yes they did, even had an interview and picture of the leared of the chinese maned space program - told that it was separate form the militray program, which dose not let any lunches be photographed and even he has not seen one from there. I can not possibly rember his name. (probably something like Chin Chan Wu etc. :D)* He wore glasses and look the part
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*No offense intended to Chinese readers. - Only trying to be fiunny while explaning why I have no idea now about his name.)

bullocks....give me details....not some chinese name you cant remember Chin Chan Wu.....

I need details.
 
Billy T get it out of your head, Russia will not and does not plan on having any joint space missions with China.
now my turn to ask: How do you know this? (It is very hard to support any such "does not exist" claim.)
 
Then you will need to search. I think the newspaper they were in wrapped the innards of the fish the maid cleaned yesterday.

look...you cant just say some Chinese secret program teamed up with Russian secret program and now they are launching stuff in orbit.

I might as well say bunch of aliens from Omega Centauri system have signed a pact to increase taxes in USA...and its all secret.

You gotta have some sort of proof.
 
Economically, there is no doubt China will overtake the US.

Militarily, there is no doubt China will overtake the US shortly.
 
look...you cant just say some Chinese secret program teamed up with Russian secret program and now they are launching stuff in orbit. ...
Chinese maned space program is NOT secrete. Quite the contray they want the world to know of it. I am not going to search for you - but you should be able to find lots on it, especially if you can read chinese. I may have read about it in an Indian news paper - I just do not remember where the article with photo and discussion of their maned space plans was. - I read too much to keep all the sources straight, especially on someting like this, instead of economic news.

Be reasonable: What reason could I have to make this up? I admit it may not be true, but it is what I read, and I rarely waste time on sources that are not generally reliable. - Hell I don't trust wiki for this reason as I have found several errors there but genreally believe them and do occasionally reference them.
 
Chinese maned space program is NOT secrete. Quite the contray they want the world to know of it. I am not going to search for you - but you should be able to find lots on it, especially if you can read chinese. I may have read about it in an Indian news paper - I just do not remember where the article with photo and disuccion of their maned space plans was - I read too much too keep all the sources straight, especaillon someting like this, instead of economic news. Be reasonable: What reason could I have to make this up? I admit it may not be true, but it is waht I read, and I rarely waste time on sources that are not generally reliable - hell I don't trust wiki for this reason as I have found several errors therebut genreally believe them and do occasionally refernce them.

Give me details...details...just one name involved in this.
 
Give me details...details...just one name involved in this.
Well the most recent wiki error I noted (remember it as it was part of a post here) had to do with spectra graphs - They did not have the simplist even illustrated (the Rowland circle one with the grating rulled on the concave mirror) and the one they did have illustrated would not work.

I admit it is hard to draw / illustrate one and both show the grading's ruled lines and the slits of the spectra graph on a 2D page, but at least wiki should have had a note explaining that the slit and grading lines are parallel, not orthogonal as shown in their drawing!


INHO the omission of the first ever design is unforgivable (but perhaps that is be cause my PhD is from JHU and the machine that made the first accurate grading in the world is still in the basement of the physics building, called "Rowland Hall.") The 21 foot diameter Roland circle spectragraph produced at least half of the PhD's data when I was there, but not mine, which was about plasma physic and Argon ion line shapes - that required the very high resolution of a Fabry-Perot. I did use the big Rowland circle grating as all Graduate students did in that era. - you worked in total darkness inside the grading. I assume it is still there, cranking out Ph.D.s. It was too boring for me, but a sure fire means of gaining one as you found yet another Stark effect shift in some spectral lines in some rare earth atom, placed as an intersticial impurity in some crystal.
 
I said China could TRIGGER a run on the dollar, not that it could both protect itself (by transfer of most of reserves into sovern funds etc) and still dump enough Treasury bonds to cause that run all by itself.

Uh huh. Perhaps you could explain the difference between TRIGGERing a run and causing a run?

Not being an oriental, I do not understand the importance of "saving face" to the extent that it is necessary to kill oneself (or ones country) to avoid "losing face"

The fact that you're still calling them "orientals" (and thinking in terms of outdated, racist stereotypes) makes me very doubtful that you know what you're talking about.
 
Uh huh. Perhaps you could explain the difference between TRIGGERing a run and causing a run?[/b] there is not much usually - I.e. one can trigger a gun to fire or a building to collapse etc. or one can cause a gun to fire or a building to collapse. this does not maen you do it all by your self. In these examples, their needs to be assistance for some explosive etc.
The fact that you're still calling them "orientals" (and thinking in terms of outdated, racist stereotypes) makes me very doubtful that you know what you're talking about.
I wish you were more concerned with trying to understand wha I am saying and less concerned with my choice of words. In the footnote to last post I even admited that my use of "trends" was not as explicit as it could have been to describe what is most concernint to me, but if you actually tried to follow what I am trying to say and asked for clarification when it was not clear, we would progress more.

PS, laer by edit: I went back to what I thought you were refering to. In post 588 Idid say:

"*No offense intended to Chinese readers. - Only trying to be funny while explaning why I have no idea now about his name.)"

but that is not where I must have used term "orientals" as I thought. I would appreciate it if you would tell me where I did so. I want to check how I used it. As leader in the civil rights movement, I am generally quite careful with terms that may offend. There is nothing universally wrong with describing someone as an "oriental" in most cases as far as I know, but still want to check how I used that term.
 
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Well the most recent wiki error I noted (remember it as it was part of a post here) had to do with spectra graphs - They did not have the simplist even illustrated (the Rowland circle one with the grating rulled on the concave mirror) and the one they did have illustrated would not work.

I admit it is hard to draw / illustrate one and both show the grading's ruled lines and the slits of the spectra graph on a 2D page, but at least wiki should have had a note explaining that the slit and grading lines are parallel, not orthogonal as shown in their drawing!


INHO the omission of the first ever design is unforgivable (but perhaps that is be cause my PhD is from JHU and the machine that made the first accurate grading in the world is still in the basement of the physics building, called "Rowland Hall.") The 21 foot diameter Roland circle spectragraph produced at least half of the PhD's data when I was there, but not mine, which was about plasma physic and Argon ion line shapes - that required the very high resolution of a Fabry-Perot. I did use the big Rowland circle grating as all Graduate students did in that era. - you worked in total darkness inside the grading. I assume it is still there, cranking out Ph.D.s. It was too boring for me, but a sure fire means of gaining one as you found yet another Stark effect shift in some spectral lines in some rare earth atom, placed as an intersticial impurity in some crystal.

stop being an ass...and get on topic!
 
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