I am glad we both agree that life has value--or our soul has value. You can burn your whole body and lose all your limbs, what matters is that you still have your soul.
When you talk about killing, what in the Bible are you talking about--The Old Testament clearly says, "Thou shalt not kill." Its referring to the value of life. This command was written by the same author as the other parts of the Pentateuch (Moses inspired by God). You don't think Moses would have realized that would be a contradiction? Thus proving that Moses did not write a book based on his own observations.
Ask yourself did these events occur or not? If they did occur, it only adds credibility to the Bible.
Its like your saying that those who went to kill Hilter were simply outrageous if they killed others on the way--they had no right and were just blinding killing them. Clearly they had a purpose to kill Hilter, and no one was going to stop them.
God has a purpose. What do you think His purpose was, what is He trying to teach us?
What purpose do you think God had?
"The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away;
Blessed be the name of the LORD.”
God's purpose, in the Bible, for thousands of years and for millions of people was to teach His own people to kill each other, without mercy, over failures to keep the Law perfectly, or in other words, for sin. But, according to Paul, it is supposed to be impossible to ever keep the Law perfectly. He teaches that no one has ever done it and that this is why we need Jesus, right? So, people were routinely killed, by Law, for failing to do the impossible? And this was called justice? The Old Testament indeed does say, "Thou shalt not kill." Great! I happen to agree with this! And it is because I agree with this that I disagree with the Laws in the Old Testament that demanded that “Thou shalt kill”. This is yet another contradiction!
I am not talking about God Himself killing anyone at the moment. That is a completely different discussion. Nor am I talking about God changing either. I am talking about a change in morality itself. What was supposed to be a “moral” killing in the Old Testament becomes “immoral” in the New. Well, if that is so then it never should have been commanded by God in the first place.
I am talking about the fact that God, through His Law, knowing full well that His people were incapable of doing what He had commanded them to do, still commanded His own people to kill one another over failures to keep the Law perfectly. He did not kill them, He turned His own people against His own people. He placed the decision and the stone in their flawed hands. Well, if they were incapable of keeping the Law perfectly then they also had to have been incapable of carrying out the sentence of the Law perfectly as well. How many innocent children died because of human mistakes?
Here are just a few examples...
Leviticus 20:9
9'If there is anyone who curses his father or his mother, he shall surely be put to death; he has cursed his father or his mother, his bloodguiltiness is upon him.
No mercy, no forgiveness, only death!
Leviticus 21:9
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.
No mercy, no forgiveness, only death!
2 Chronicles 15:12-13
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Serve the God of Israel or die! Hmmm… This is just like all of those “evil” faiths. Hmmm… I wonder?
Zechariah 13:3
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.
Kill your child for prophesying!
Deuteronomy 22:20-21
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.
Stone girls to death who cannot prove that they are virgins! What kind of family values are these?
Deuteronomy 13:7-12
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.
If these things were ever right then they are right now! And if these things are wrong now then they were wrong then.
This is what the God of the Bible taught His people. This is the kind of society He created and these are the family values that He embedded deep within each of them to live and to kill by. In this kind of “beautiful” family you were afraid of your own mother, and father, and sister, and brother, and friend, and relative, because any of them might kill you or have you killed if you sinned. What a loving family! What a righteous example for the rest of the world to follow.
Exodus 31:12-15
The LORD then gave these further instructions to Moses: 'Tell the people of Israel to keep my Sabbath day, for the Sabbath is a sign of the covenant between me and you forever. It helps you to remember that I am the LORD, who makes you holy. Yes, keep the Sabbath day, for it is holy. Anyone who desecrates it must die; anyone who works on that day will be cut off from the community. Work six days only, but the seventh day must be a day of total rest. I repeat: Because the LORD considers it a holy day, anyone who works on the Sabbath must be put to death.'
Mow the lawn on the Sabbath and you must die!
Did they actually do this? Yes!
Numbers 15:32-36
32 While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day. 33 Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, 34 and they kept him in custody, because it was not clear what should be done to him. 35 Then the LORD said to Moses, "The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp." 36 So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses.
Pick up sticks on the Sabbath and die! That is how extreme this insanity is.
You have to kill or you are cursed!
Jeremiah 48:10
Cursed be he who does the Lords work remissly, cursed he who holds back his sword from blood.
I have to fix one of my son’s glasses. Gotta Go!
God Bless!
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