DwayneD.L.Rabon said:
Well as usual skinwalker has eluded the conversation, don't even know why skinwalker bothers to post all that nonsense.
Eluded the conversation? You're kidding right? You're (Q), right? His sock puppet? You cannot be serious. I've provided evidence that
counters nearly everthing you've said in regards to geomagnetic reversal... you've provided not one sliver of evidence. Not a single citation to a single paper or text. Instead, you rely on the typical pseudoscientific/crackpot methodology of saying, "the evidence is in front of you."
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:
For those who wonder skinwalker has been presented with facts that are demonstared first had and are well known, but skinwalker refuses to acknowlegde the facts even of basic science.
You have yet to demonstrate that 'basic science' is even something that you've studied even casually.
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:
For those that wounder because of skinwalkers questions, the time of a magnetic pole reversal is determined by radiocarbon dating, and at much effort given to this task world wide. The date given by analyase of carbon 14 gives the eact means by which to measure the distrbances of the earth as a whole. wherein a major event happens on earth effecting the entire earth. The analyse gives the a period of 8,000 years approximatly since the last world wide distrubance.
Then I ask: what is the radiocarbon evidence that is used to determine the last event? What was sampled? You cannot answer this Rabon, because it wasn't done.
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:
There are only so many events that can cause a world wide disturbance, a marjor asteroid impact, or a magnetic pole reversal. carbon 14 is unique in making this determination, it provides a high level of accuracy as to the events of earth as the source of carbon 14 is not subject to events that happen on earth, such as erosion, volcanic activity ect... and therefor the direct time line can be seen to events on earth, at least major ones that effect the entire earth.
Case in point, you demonstrate a complete misunderstanding of how radiocarbon works and it can, indeed, be influenced by events on earth, which is why one is careful to examine the provenience of the sample. But I won't get into that. I just want to know what the citation is to the sample that proves a magnetic reversal. I also want to know the methodology used to determine through radiocarbon that a reversal occurred. Very simple questions that should have very direct and simple answers if you are being truthful. Questions you will not be able to answer if you are full of crap.
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:
Next: The magnetic pole reversal is a major earth event, the magnetic feild of earth is a body that effects every atom,electron and as well [as] light on the earth where we live. imagine this if a compass neddle can move around because of a the earths magnetic feild and it is a piece of iron, what would other materials do, all elements that act in chemistry, known as atoms are magnetised and so they will respond to a magnetic feild, a very good example is a cathode tube here we can see a large force of elecrtons responding to a magnetic feild. the source of electricity is based on the ablity of a magnetic feild to collect electrons and send them down a wire.
The magnetic feild is stronger than any magnetic ever created on earth.
This, Rabon, is where you are speculating. And your speculations are baseless. There is NO evidence that in the absence of the earth's magnetic field that anything would be affected. Indeed, men have gone many days in absence of the earths magnetic field. I point you to astronauts and cosmonauts (the former visiting the Moon and Skylab and the latter the Soviet-then-Russian space station-all of which were
outside of the magnetosphere). I also remind you that the earths magnetic field is
not stronger than any created on earth. If it were, how then does my refrigerator hold all of my daughters artwork? I'm able to defeat this "strongest field" by simply magnetizing a paperclip and picking up another paperclip with it. Indeed, simply applying an MRI to a person to get a picture of their head is applying far more magnetic field than they've
ever experienced, yet the patient feels nothing. Their electrons are intact. This is because electron affinity is a DIFFERENT force!
You've provided NOTHING in the way of citation, medical or physics, that suggests that human cells are affected by magnetic fields. You are engaging in uneducated poppycock.
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:
when the magnetic feild reverses it will cause major disturbance, just as a common magnetic moves iron or other materials like tungsten, it will move the earth, but in such a way that the earth shrinks, causeing earth quakes, as well the it causes the atmopshere to move around greatly simply by ionzation, a very simple calculation of ionzation by a feild such as the magnetic feild of earth tell you the effect that such as magnetic feild will have on earth and its atmosphere, it is quite catastrophic, humans will by all means need to find a way to protect them selves. during and after a magnetic pole reversal.
If this were true, then we would have seen the evidence in the geologic record. We don't. More uneducated poppycock. You are full of shit. We may, indeed, be affected by a reversal should one occur in our lifetimes, but it will be navigation that relies upon magnetic compasses that will affect us. Those that have GPS will be fine. We might see an increase in skin cancers for the generation that deals with the reversal since the ozone is already thinned and less of the Sun's energy will be deflected. But there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE OF ANY TECTONIC ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH MAGNETIC REVERSALS.
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:
Next: the magnetic feild and growth, just as the electrons in every atom are polarized by a magnetic feild, mainly the outter electrons, so also are electric currents with in the human body, that which effects neruons, neruons are what allows muscel cells and bones to heal and it is by response via nerouns that we grow. many exsperiment have been conducted, both on animals and humans with this resect to electric current, amphibians such as frogs and slamanders, and cameleon depend on this neroloical response and electric stimulous to regrow limbs that have been completely severed, this study was broaden to humans and the treatmeant of elderly,having bone fractures to much success. the magnetic feild determines the rate of elertical flow and for such reason magnetic feilds are used in the treatment of such illness as carpule tunel ect... the earth has a base magnetic feild that polarize every thing and effects the natural flow of every thing, electrons and ions. Once again as this subject can get very long with the effects of magnetic feilds on humans and life, just as magnetic feilds are used in chemistry to cause a given reaction in a mixture, the same occurs in the bodies of humans, the ions of the human body just as a ions in a chemical mixture are responsive to a magnetic feild. One of the best example of the effect of the magnetic feild on ions is the VanAllen belts above the earth in the sky, another example would be the a atom smasher.
Poppycock. You should educate yourself on chemistry and understand better the nature of electron affinity and on the nature of strong and weak electromagnetic forces. If electrons in the human body were to be adversly affected by outside electromagnetic forces, then the first person who ever experienced an MRI would have screamed in pain. The earth's magnetic field is not even
felt by the electrons in the atoms that make up matter on earth, unless they are of minerals that are naturally magnetic, such as magnetite. Carbon, water, hydrogen, lithium, calcium, etc..... all unaffected. We see the evidence in the geologic record as well as experiments in magnatism done in elementary school science classes.
DwayneD.L.Rabon said:
Skinwalker i don't mind if you ignore what i say as you add nothing to disscussion, skeptic well thats fine but i think you are over board, exspecially since you can not even admit to a simple point of fact, regarding even something as simple as a magnetic. you have formed some web site persinality that you can get out of in habit so if some one has something to say you will miss it. For example you probally don't know who your father is, even if your mother told you who your father was, you just belive that it is your father but the fact of reality is that you don't know that he is your father, you may say that i know he is my father but what i think is that your mother selpt with his brother or his father being skeptical about thing in all, not to insult you as it is just a exapmle of skeptic. did i take it to far?
Rabon, Phlogistican parodied your posts in a quote that he made several posts back. It was funny. But it was accurate. You clearly have no education in these matters and you are clearly a speculating alarmist, and one that has a crackpot idea about a subject that is easily sensationalized. You have yet to support ANY of your claims about magnatism and magnetic reversal with ANY citation of actual science. Instead, you make a loose correlation between the fact that since matter is made of atoms with magnetic forces, they must therefore be affected by the earth's magnetic field. Yet you fail to demonstrate that the earth's relatively weak magnetic field has any affect on anything. The earth's magnetic field is weak. It's big, but it's weak. I can overcome it by simply sticking a magnet to a refrigerator or saving information to my harddrive.
All your silly questions about my skeptical nature were likewise incoherent and did not make sense. I'm not sure if you were implying that I was a bastard or that I claim I'm a bastard. Truthfully, it lost me and I skimmed to the end where you asked if you took it too far. I read it again to find out and I'm really not sure where you were trying to take it and have no idea at what point such an analogy could be considered to far. If I had to guess, I'd say it would have been simpler just to say "you're a bastard."
For those that are wondering:
Rabon has -to date- stated that a magnetic reversal occurred only 8,000 years ago, yet there is no evidence to suggest this. He claims there is radiocarbon evidence, but has failed to demonstrate what that evidence is or what the methodology was that shows this alleged evidence proves a magnetic reversal occurred only 8 kya.
The last geomagnetic reversal of the earths poles occurred at around 780,000 years ago and it is called the Matuyama-Brunhes boundary and is considered to be the separation of the upper and lower Pleistocene epoch for geologists and paleontologists since it is so clearly delineated.
Rabon claims that such reversals cause global catastrophes and have deleterious effects on fauna, even though both the geologic record and the paleologic/archaeologic records do not demonstrate this claim. Nor does Rabon provide any citation that supports his claim.
Rabon claims that the earth's magnetic field, if absent, would have direct effect on human life. But humans have been without this field, albeit temporarily, during spaceflight and have had
intense magnetic fields applied to them via MRI -neither showing any deleterious effects because of absence or increase of magnetic fields.
Rabon claims that the strong/weak electromagnetic forces in atoms are dependent upon the earth's magnetic field, yet science tells us otherwise. I won't get into a chemistry/physics lesson here, but we can look at the spaceprobes that have been sent with success out of the earth's magnetic field; examine the geologic/paleologic/archaeologic records to see that flora and fauna have been unaffected; and we can rely upon basic experimentation to see that electron affinity is independent of outside magnetic forces -most notably the very weak geomagnetic force. To separate an atom's components requires MUCH energy.
Rabon is a crackpot.