As an Atheist what do you teach kids?

Dywyddyr said:
Cower and hide?
Some of us sleep and do other things. :rolleyes:


Go ahead. Offer proof.
Tears are "emotional proof" of what exactly?
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I have offerent a multitude of direct questions you have answered none of them i know your tactics and they are weak. your not drawing me into stupid off topic points and which will end up in your debating about grammar and my vocab.

So get on point witht he flow and all of my direct questions and you show me how what you do is honourable and beneficial tot he happiness of the children.

Im challenging you to present your emotional evidences. and what will you reply you will act like you dont understand my words i have already for-seen your reply and i am told that you will question these exact things unles si directly tell you not to which will make you look rpredictable which you wouldnt want to seem because that would in your eyes score me kudos points in minor technicalitys.

You will act like you dont know what im talking about and be like WTF do you mean "emotional evidence" because somebody like you who does not understand what sound is, what music, is what hope is and what joy is.


So go on address my very direct points, you do realize allt he readers can read everything I write and even though you are too dead to even get through my posts you probably don't even read all of my words which is not too your advantage either because the other readers will gauge you for how on point you are at rebuttle and refuting my claims and you have not even asnwered 10% of anything that i put forth.

So i will ask you address my points and answer them all like a good boy or Git oooout.
 
sifreak21 said:
sorry efc i cant stop laughing.. you have been proven wrong so many times and humiliated here yet you keep at it.

your statement just proves the point that the losers are the religious because the actually think they are better than others because the believe in a fairy tale.. yet you want an actuall debate. which might i add say you and dyw got into a debate he would DESTROY you but you will keep skating around it if he actually did call you out.
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Pointless crap and poking at the theists without answering anything or even addressing my actual questions and points.


Denied get back tot he drawing board your attempt is not even showing any effort.
 
sifreak21 said:
lol again EFC the point of the topic is how does an atheist teach there kids and in my response.. maybe you just didnt actually read it.. i state that the atheist i know support there kids in whatever they want.. wehre as theists actually force there kids to go to church and hear the BS spewing from the mouth of the pastors.. in response to theis ridiculous statement. i DID answer the topic at hand you just didnt want to see it becaue its the truth
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No that is just the thread Title, you have to do more than read the title and answer the title.

Do you enter a class on "how to cook" and then say "you get some food and cook it" class over?


More bunk nonesense not addressing any of my questions and points


Denied
 
I've told both my sons that lots of people believe different things. I've told them what I think. I've hopefully helped them in applying critical thinking to problems.

That's all I can do. I can't tell them what to think.

For what it's worth, the older thinks along the line I do. I actually have to reign him in sometimes, because being a kid, he does still jump to conclusions easy, even in atheistic reasoning. I try to let him see that it's okay to not have an answer yet, it's all about breaking down the problem and finding rational answers.

The other is still a bit young, but he realizes that there are a lot of different thoughts out there, and more important to learn at his age is acceptance of that fact. He'll figure out what he thinks later.

So in short, I've taught my kids how to think. If any of the religions have enough substance, maybe they'll be drawn to them. I have my doubts on that, though, because I wasn't.
 
Is this the best Atheist has? you can't do better than avoiding my actual questions and my detailed and very real points?


Are any of you who posted actualy parents or have you ever actualy spoken to a crying child who is scared to die?


Come on where are your atheist soldiers? where are the ones who can debate me in depth and address everything I say. im debating you all at the same time and it's too easy your all terrible at this.


come on step your game up Atheists your embarresing the team infron of the whoel world. imagine allt he parents who actualy understand what im saying is best for the children? i could be converting thousands of people tot heism! oh no defend your morals and atheist justice and morals.


Come on im getting bored of reading crap rebuttles the only one who even remotely was making sense was spider.
 
I am not sure the OP actually deserve an answer seeing his hostile responses, but I would go with Asimov's answer:

Death is like a dreamless sleep, you just never wake up.

Or if you don't like that answer, I would go with the 72 virgins and honeyflow and massages with happy endings......
 
Rhaedas said:
I've told both my sons that lots of people believe different things. I've told them what I think. I've hopefully helped them in applying critical thinking to problems.

That's all I can do. I can't tell them what to think.

For what it's worth, the older thinks along the line I do. I actually have to reign him in sometimes, because being a kid, he does still jump to conclusions easy, even in atheistic reasoning. I try to let him see that it's okay to not have an answer yet, it's all about breaking down the problem and finding rational answers.

The other is still a bit young, but he realizes that there are a lot of different thoughts out there, and more important to learn at his age is acceptance of that fact. He'll figure out what he thinks later.

So in short, I've taught my kids how to think. If any of the religions have enough substance, maybe they'll be drawn to them. I have my doubts on that, though, because I wasn't.
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This is a good reply, and honest .


You are actualy being an agnostic in your teaching and you are not an enemy of my words today int his thread, your stance of leaving it up to them is noble.


Even if an atheist were to not have faith they could still actualy teach the child that heaven is a possibility but that it might not exist, I do not have any problem with this it does not cause instand fear or instant sadness tot he child, i have told this to children int he pasty and it just leaves them wondering, and they look elsewhere for the answers when you make it clear you dont have them.


Teaching your kids "hey anythign is possible" is a very smart chocie to make, something that militant atheists forget to even consider in their personal hate crusade where they end up projecting their own hate of religion onto the very children they are raising.


I used to be atheist/agnostic but even when i didn't think god was real i never once told a child ever that god was fake and that heaven is fake i always said there is a good chance it's real so smile and cheery up.


PEace be with you
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
Pointless crap and poking at the theists without answering anything or even addressing my actual questions and points.


Denied get back tot he drawing board your attempt is not even showing any effort.
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since you dont seem to have the capacity to to see the direct answer to your question let me state it in plain english
QUESTION.
as an atheist what do you teach your kids.
ANSWER
"the atheists are the ones who let there children make up there own minds" and support what ever route they take
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
No that is just the thread Title, you have to do more than read the title and answer the title.

Do you enter a class on "how to cook" and then say "you get some food and cook it" class over?


More bunk nonesense not addressing any of my questions and points


Denied
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lol EFC im going to debate like you in threads anyone who posts anything apposed to waht i think i will quote them then call it meaningless jibberish Denied. i love this efc you really are giving me a good laugh
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
I have offerent a multitude of direct questions
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All based on the one single question;
Okay. Mummy's dead.
How's that?

So get on point witht he flow and all of my direct questions and you show me how what you do is honourable and beneficial tot he happiness of the children.
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Are you suggesting we lie?

Im challenging you to present your emotional evidences.
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What makes you think emotion is evidence? Evidence of what?

and what will you reply you will act like you dont understand my words i have already for-seen your reply and i am told that you will question these exact things unles si directly tell you not to which will make you look rpredictable which you wouldnt want to seem because that would in your eyes score me kudos points in minor technicalitys.
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Well at least you're still boringly arrogant.

You will act like you dont know what im talking about and be like WTF do you mean "emotional evidence" because somebody like you who does not understand what sound is, what music, is what hope is and what joy is.
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And still making ridiculous assumptions.

So go on address my very direct points, you do realize allt he readers can read everything I write and even though you are too dead to even get through my posts you probably don't even read all of my words which is not too your advantage either because the other readers will gauge you for how on point you are at rebuttle and refuting my claims and you have not even asnwered 10% of anything that i put forth.
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Blah blah blah. Don't you ever get tired of posting inane rants?
 
Your understanding of what I said wasn't entirely correct.

I don't tell them that anything is possible. It would be dishonest of me to say that, because that's not what I think.

I tell them that there are a lot of different beliefs out there, tell them about the ones I know, and then what I think. I never tell them that those other beliefs might be right, I just encourage them to take a look for themselves.

As for death, they've experienced a few grandparents and other older adults dying, and they both understand that they're gone. I don't think it helps to candy coat that fact at all. It's okay to grieve the loss of someone, why make it seem like things will be better later?
 
Syzygys said:
I am not sure the OP actually deserve an answer seeing his hostile responses, but I would go with Asimov's answer:

Death is like a dreamless sleep, you just never wake up.

Or if you don't like that answer, I would go with the 72 virgins and honeyflow and massages with happy endings......
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exactly he didnt actually want to know what they teach there kids he wanted them to to say what they do and then tell them how bad of a parent they are for not teaching them the ways of the fairy tale.
 
cosmictraveler said:
That the person has died.



I just use the internet to show about evolution. Science would be a very good guide to use in helping anyone understand how human life evolved.





I'd try to show them many good points about my own life as well as many good examples of the wonders that humankind has done over the centuries with buildings, medicine, art and a myriad of other inventions and ideas.





I would explain that their friends would miss them and remember them in their hearts.





The reality is that you die like everything else that has ever lived but I'm being cremated not stuck in a coffin to let those pesky worms eat me up. If you are cremated there's no darkness but put into a coffin there's always darkness because no lights inside the coffin.:p




True so I won't make up myths and stories about invisible beings that they need to be watchful for. I'll be supportive, honest and caring about them.
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Thank you for the honest and good reply.


I think most of the top and middle replies are not so bad they are acceptable, but when you get to the bottom question you waver and this might lead to depressing the kid especially if you say "well we all die and then your just dead" this actualy has a huge psychological impact on the childs psyche and can even turn him into a copletely different kind of adult than if you told him "hey you never know heaven might be true"


See kid are proggrammed to question EVERYTHING, anybody who has spent any amount of time with your typical 3-4 year old knows this. its always WHY why why why why why. they even want to ask why for the reply of I dont know" they are like "well why dont you know like your the adult wtf are you so dumb for you been here so long you old fart" (kinda thing lol)



See here is what i was hoping a Good hearted atheist would come out and say int his thread.

"even though I don't believe in god i still tell my children about god and the possibility of him existing"


But this is where you get the hypocrites who claim forcing the child to believe is evil and bad, but they then go and tell the exact same "Crap" and fill their child's head with there "own personal views about the unknown" (Death and the afterlife which lets face it you cant prove doesnt exist and i cant prove exists.



So lets ask another question, lets for debate sake call both permanent death and the afterlife a "white lie"

What is the better lie? which one actualy brings hope and which one brings sadness and be honest about it. just because your an atheist doen'st mean a theist can give you knowledge you dont have to feel defensive like im on the other tea, your a human just like me i have love for you too. i dont care that your an atheist i will still treat you fair and if you admit "you know what your right" iw ont even slightly rub it in or gloat. I will humbly say

"Alhamdulilah!"
 
EmptyForceOfChi said:
So you have given yourself the position of "knower of the truth" and you are saying to me that you have proof that there is no after life?
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I don't have to prove there isn't one. You still don't get it do you?

You can't prove that we don't pass on to an island made out of jelly. See how ridiculous 'prove it isn't X' gets?
 
sifreak21 said:
since you dont seem to have the capacity to to see the direct answer to your question let me state it in plain english
QUESTION.
as an atheist what do you teach your kids.
ANSWER
"the atheists are the ones who let there children make up there own minds" and support what ever route they take
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No that;s the thread title einstein not my multitude of querstions that follows int he OP and all my other posts.


Denied go think of a better argument and actualy address all my points.

Denied.
 
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