Are you an introvert or extrovert?

So, I'm feeling blah today. Being ''on'' for an introvert (giving a great presentation yesterday), doesn't come without a cost. :oops: I wish it came naturally for me, but the irony is...my boss thinks it does.
 
Whether it comes natural or not you have showed him you can do it... prolly be a promotion an raise sooner that you might have expected.!!!
 
wegs said:
So, I'm feeling blah today. Being ''on'' for an introvert (giving a great presentation yesterday), doesn't come without a cost. :oops: I wish it came naturally for me, but the irony is...my boss thinks it does.
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It's never come naturally for me, but I've gotten better at it over time. I actually find public speaking to be pretty easy now because I don't give long speeches very often. Being "on" all day at trade shows and the like is harder for me.
 
DaveC426913 said:
[walls]Got em. Lots of em.
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Where?? Not next to your desk or chair, because that would make it a cubicle, or at least semi-cubicle.
Anyway, i was merely suggesting why some people might work better in their own space - which does not consist of a single flat surface covered in monitor, keyboard, folders, pencil cup, hol puncher, the long stapler that always goes missing, in and out boxes and the backside of a colleague who just stopped by to pollinate you - again - cos he's got nothing to do until his department head comes back from Aspen and makes a decision.
It sounds all lovely saying everybody's quiet, polite, considerate, professional and observant; that they're all comfortable doing their back-stretches in the middle of a crowded room, respect everyone else's space and enjoy unlimited mutual access. It may even be true in your little corner of employee heaven -
but it' simply not applicable to most humans in most work-places most of the time.
 
Jeeves said:
Where?? Not next to your desk or chair, because that would make it a cubicle, or at least semi-cubicle.
Anyway, i was merely suggesting why some people might work better in their own space - which does not consist of a single flat surface covered in monitor, keyboard, folders, pencil cup, hol puncher, the long stapler that always goes missing, in and out boxes and the backside of a colleague who just stopped by to pollinate you - again - cos he's got nothing to do until his department head comes back from Aspen and makes a decision.
It sounds all lovely saying everybody's quiet, polite, considerate, professional and observant; that they're all comfortable doing their back-stretches in the middle of a crowded room, respect everyone else's space and enjoy unlimited mutual access. It may even be true in your little corner of employee heaven -
but it' simply not applicable to most humans in most work-places most of the time.
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So, you resent your job and believe women are inefficient?
 
Beer w/Straw said:
So, you resent your job and believe women are inefficient?
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What???
We were talking about open plan offices with no individual privacy or personal space; whether such an arrangement if conducive to doing one's best work, especially if one is not extroverted. It was a reply to DaveC.
How do you construe it as a negative comment on my own (perfectly custom-tailored) work, or the efficiency of women?
 
wegs said:
If we could finger paint, or take naps on the floor like back during kindergarten days, then I'd be down for that at my office. Otherwise, let me have my own space, and don't micro manage me.



Yep, often still the case. If a woman in business is assertive, etc she can be known as ''bitchy,'' whereas it's just another day in the office if a guy is assertive. #doublestandards
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I agree with your first point and slightly disagree with your last point.

A bitchy woman has a male counterpart, a jerk. That's not to say that an assertive woman is a bitch. A bitch is a bitch and a jerk is a jerk. Too often you hear a bitch describe herself as a "strong woman that the guy are just afraid of". No.

There are both men and women who are good and effective managers. Let's not excuse the jerks and bitches. :)
 
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Jeeves said:
What???
We were talking about open plan offices with no individual privacy or personal space; whether such an arrangement if conducive to doing one's best work, especially if one is not extroverted. It was a reply to DaveC.
How do you construe it as a negative comment on my own (perfectly custom-tailored) work, or the efficiency of women?
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You could also answer: Yes or No.
 
Jeeves said:
Where?? Not next to your desk or chair, because that would make it a cubicle, or at least semi-cubicle.
Anyway, i was merely suggesting why some people might work better in their own space - which does not consist of a single flat surface covered in monitor, keyboard, folders, pencil cup, hol puncher, the long stapler that always goes missing, in and out boxes and the backside of a colleague who just stopped by to pollinate you - again - cos he's got nothing to do until his department head comes back from Aspen and makes a decision.
It sounds all lovely saying everybody's quiet, polite, considerate, professional and observant; that they're all comfortable doing their back-stretches in the middle of a crowded room, respect everyone else's space and enjoy unlimited mutual access. It may even be true in your little corner of employee heaven -
but it' simply not applicable to most humans in most work-places most of the time.
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The ideal office would have moveable partitions so you could screen yourself off or be wide open, depending on your mood. (And there's a possibility that some people might take the hint and respect your wishes.)
 
Jeeves said:
Where?? Not next to your desk or chair, because that would make it a cubicle, or at least semi-cubicle.
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There's plenty of breathing space to arrange things. Lots of room for whiteboards, lots of wall space. Just none of it belongs to a given person.

Jeeves said:
- which does not consist of a single flat surface covered in monitor, keyboard, folders, pencil cup, hol puncher, the long stapler that always goes missing, in and out boxes and the backside of a colleague ...
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Which would certainly be relevant if that's what open office actually meant. But that's your caricature, not my experience.
 
Seattle said:
I agree with your first point and slightly disagree with your last point.

A bitchy woman has a male counterpart, a jerk. That's not to say that an assertive woman is a bitch. A bitch is a bitch and a jerk is a jerk. Too often you here a bitch describe herself as a "strong woman that the guy are just afraid of". No.

There are both men and women who are good and effective managers. Let's not excuse the jerks and bitches. :)
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Good points, you.
Seattle said:
Or a request for a date.
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:eek:
 
sideshowbob said:
The ideal office would have moveable partitions so you could screen yourself off or be wide open, depending on your mood. (And there's a possibility that some people might take the hint and respect your wishes.)
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Agree.

There are companies who design cubicles to fit their clients’ preferences so this could be done, which would satisfy everyone.

And Dave, you could sit in the middle of the room, without a cubicle since you enjoy that so much. :p
 
Beer w/Straw said:
You could also answer: Yes or No.
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No, I do not resent jobs. No, this has no bearing on my work. No, it's not a comment on women's efficiency.
But as I have been making myself quite clear all along, I shouldn't have to answer such a charge.
 
Jeeves said:
No, I do not resent jobs. No, this has no bearing on my work. No, it's not a comment on women's efficiency.
But as I have been making myself quite clear all along, I shouldn't have to answer such a charge.
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Why would such a charge be so perplexing?
 
Beer w/Straw said:
Would you, if you think the majority are retards?
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Though it doesn't apply to me, I'll answer it Yes and No. But If I didn't follow, I might refrain from attacking somebody - even if they had irked me at some time in the past and even if I considered them less intelligent than myself. And I usually don't even think in words like 'retard', let alone use them on anyone.
 
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