DaveC426913
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It will literally murder an introvert.What? No. Just no. lol
It will literally murder an introvert.What? No. Just no. lol
Exactly. It could even slightly injure an extrovert.It will literally murder an introvert.
Heh. It's not inadvertent. These are deliberate attempts (whether successful or not) to encourage certain types of interaction.ETA: Sharing cubes and computers shows a lack of investment in a company’s employees, imo.
Yep. At one place, the CEO had the whole office re-designed into one room. He sat at a desk, like everyone else. Behind him was an office where he could go to make private phone calls.In other words the president/owner has a basic desk/office/cubicle just like everyone else.
And you don't chew with your mouth open, you don't have audible conversations with anyone near the desks of people who are trying to concentrate, you don't walk around or stand behind them while they are working, , your headphones are dialed down so they can't be heard at the next desk, and so forth.Open plan encourages others to approach you whenever there is something to discuss - the caveat of course being that you have manners and don't literally interrupt someone who's obviously concentrating.
There's an interesting slant!This isn’t kindergarten.
Instead of a open floor plan office at one extreme or fancy offices that get fancier depending on your pay grade/job title at the other extreme, I think the best compromise is where everyone has some basic privacy and there there is little difference depending on your job title.
In other words the president/owner has a basic desk/office/cubicle just like everyone else.
there is a vast contrast.If I’m not mistaken, the open workspace failed at Google.
Correct. In other words, I act like a responsible adult who is out in public and mindful of the people around him.And you don't chew with your mouth open, you don't have audible conversations with anyone near the desks of people who are trying to concentrate, you don't walk around or stand behind them while they are working, , your headphones are dialed down so they can't be heard at the next desk, and so forth.
If we could finger paint, or take naps on the floor like back during kindergarten days, then I'd be down for that at my office. Otherwise, let me have my own space, and don't micro manage me.There's an interesting slant!
(* a boy who organizes other children is 'a leader'; a girl who does the same is just 'bossy')
Correct. In other words, I act like a responsible adult who is out in public and mindful of the people around him.
And if there are others who do these things around me, then, just like anywhere else in public, I weigh the consequences of politely speaking up, or just being a little more tolerant.
This is one of the things I mean by discouraging entrenchment. No employee should feel he a special right to privacy more than his job requires. It's not my TV den. It's not my fort. I'm here to work, not build a wall of shrubbery.
What exactly do I/you need privacy for?True, but it sounds like you have NO privacy. It's not a prison, it's a business office.
To post on SF?What exactly do I/you need privacy for?
If it's work-related, then my cow-orkers are remote enough for me to do what I need to do.
To post on SF?
Thing is, that perception was instilled in the children from nursery school onward. Not just on the children who would eventually become bullies and victims, leaders and losers, but all the foot-soldiers in between. The competent and ambitious boys are trained up through the stages of effective leadership, while the equally competent and ambitious girls are constantly slapped down - or at least elbowed aside.Yep, often still the case. If a woman in business is assertive, etc she can be known as ''bitchy,'' whereas it's just another day in the office if a guy is assertive. #doublestandards
Depends on your work. In a number of jobs, it's helpful to have a wall to pin charts or maps of graphics on, for example; some people think best leaning against a wall with their feet elevated; some release tension with exercises or by throwing things at a wastebasket. Non cookie-cutter people have personal styles of working to their potential, and if they have no space to personalize, they have no opportunity to explore their potential. And, really quite a lot of people like to be able to scratch their heads while they think - in quiet, without headphones.What exactly do I/you need privacy for?
Got em. Lots of em.In a number of jobs, it's helpful to have a wall to pin charts or maps of graphics on,
Doesn't require privacy, simply requires a general consensus that people work in different ways, and don;t tread on me.some people think best leaning against a wall with their feet elevated; some release tension with exercises or by throwing things at a wastebasket.
You are equating personalization with privacy. They are not the same thing. No one said you can't personalize your space*.Non cookie-cutter people have personal styles of working to their potential, and if they have no space to personalize, they have no opportunity to explore their potential.
It's mostly quiet. Headphones not often needed.And, really quite a lot of people like to be able to scratch their heads while they think - in quiet, without headphones.