no, but it is a species. (not endangered though)
I don't think anyone was telling you NOT to eat meat, we're just telling you why you shouldn't.Hapsburg said:Because I think it's stupid for people to tell me what the fuck I can and what the fuck I cannot eat. My food.
Malaria is actively out to kill us (well, it's not TRYING to kill us, it's just trying to survive, but you know what I mean). That's a different story. I've never heard of killer chickensspuriousmonkey said:What about malaria?
yeah, neither of which are animals. They're protists.spuriousmonkey said:Amoeba belong to the same group as malaria: protozoa.
i think...
Which reverts back to you trying to force your moral/etical problems on to others, or teach if force is to strong a word for you.I don't think anyone was telling you NOT to eat meat, we're just telling you why you shouldn't.
TheAlphaWolf said:Malaria is actively out to kill us (well, it's not TRYING to kill us, it's just trying to survive, but you know what I mean). That's a different story. I've never heard of killer chickens
Huh? ok, when you have an issue with others' ethics, don't you tell them? and wasn't this whole thread MEANT to discuss ethics? I mean, don't go crying to your mommy for willingly coming into a thread meant to discuss the ethics of how to treat animals.Kunax said:Which reverts back to you trying to force your moral/etical problems on to others, or teach if force is to strong a word for you.
What point are you trying to make?spuriousmonkey said:Bird flu.
No, can't say I have. And the rooster is angry for a reason. comparing malaria that has to kill to survive, and roosters who only get mad if you make them mad is pointless. I've been around roosters (I admit I haven't been all that much around them, but I have a few times) and from what i've seen they don't get mad very easily. And I've seen plenty of little kids running in the middle of chickens/roosters. ... which really isn't the point... the point is that I'd feel no guilt if malaria was exterminated (without any side-effects of course) since it existing means death/pain/suffering, especially since it's just a microscopic protozoan that doesn't think or feel or anything.Hapsburg said:You never been chased by an angry rooster? Oh, they get real mean, real fast, and they can seriously wound or kill children.
TheAlphaWolf said:What point are you trying to make?
Bird flu isn't even alive. It's a virus.
oh, you mean the chicken with bird flu?That chickens can kill you.
not according to most biologists, and I agree. It can't even reproduce itself.A virus is life.
For something to be dead it must have been alive at some point. Was that some kind of trap you were trying to set? lol.spuriousmonkey said:Is a virus dead?
So you consider prions, viroids, and others alive too? same goes for you suprious.leopold99 said:i am not a biologist but i consider a virus alive
the fact that it needs a host means it's a parasite
i think most biologists will agree that parasites are a bonafide lifeform
oh c'mon. I don't think ANYONE defines life like that! Well, I guess them weirdos who say matter is self aware or something may do that...There is no precise definition of what separates the living from the non-living. One definition might be the point at which an entity becomes self-aware. In this sense, someone who has had severe head trauma may be classified as brain dead.
but this is exactly what abiogenesis and evolution saysTheAlphaWolf said:Well, I guess them weirdos who say matter is self aware or something may do that...
No, it doesn't.leopold99 said:but this is exactly what abiogenesis and evolution says
that matter becomes self aware
which is the subject of another thread