Aether Displacement

All 'delayed choice quantum eraser' experiments are explained by understanding conservation of momentum and a moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

In the image on the right here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment
When the downconverted photon pair are created, in order for there to be conservation of momentum, the original photons momentum is conserved. This means the downconverted photon pair have opposite polarizations. We will describe one of the photons as being the 'up' photon and the other photon as being the 'down' photon. One of the downconverted photons travels either the red or blue path toward D0 and the other photon travels either the red or blue path toward the prism.

There are physical waves in the aether propagating both the red and blue paths. The aether waves propagating toward D0 interact with the lens and create interference prior to reaching D0. The aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels prior to reaching D0. There are actually two interference patterns being created at D0. One associated with the 'up' photons when they arrive at D0 and the other interference pattern associated with the 'down' photons when they arrive at D0.

Both 'up' and 'down' photons are reflected by BSa and arrive at D3. Since there is a single path toward D3 there is nothing for the wave in the aether to interfere with and there is no interference pattern and since it is not determined if it is an 'up' or 'down' photon being detected at D3 there is no way to distinguish between the photons arriving at D0 which interference pattern each photon belongs to. The same for photons reflected by BSb and arrive at D4.

Photons which pass through BSa and are reflected by BSc and arrive at D1 are either 'up' or 'down' photons but not both. If 'up' photons arrive at D1 then 'down' photons arrive at D2. The opposite occurs for photons which pass through BSb. Photons which pass through BSa and pass through BSb and arrive at D1 are all either 'up' or 'down' photons. If all 'up' photons arrive at D1 then all 'down' photons arrive at D2. Since the physical waves in the aether traveling both the red and blue paths are combined prior to D1 and D2 the aether waves create interference which alters the direction the photon travels. Since all 'up' photons arrive at one of the detectors and all 'down' photons arrive at the other an interference pattern is created which reflects back to the interference pattern both sets of photons are creating at D0.

The following experiment will provide evidence of aether displacement.

Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Replace mirror Ma with BSca and replace mirror Mb with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to determine the interference patterns both sets of photons are creating at D0.

Ok, sounds good. Conduct your experiment, if it turns out the way you think it will then publish the results in a peer reviewed journal. After that, start a new tread here and tell us all to stuff it :D while linking your paper.

Now go, stop wasting your time arguing the point and get cracking.
 
Ok, sounds good. Conduct your experiment, if it turns out the way you think it will then publish the results in a peer reviewed journal. After that, start a new tread here and tell us all to stuff it :D while linking your paper.

Now go, stop wasting your time arguing the point and get cracking.

Aether displacement is a theory of everything.
 
And your point?
Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Pressure exerted by displaced aether toward matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

Curved spacetime is displaced aether.

The state of displacement of the aether forces the plates together in the Casimir effect.

Zero-point energy is the energy associated with the state of displacement of the aether.

Aether displacement is a theory of everything.
 
The following experiment will provide evidence of aether displacement.

Refer to the image on the right here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment

Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Replace mirror Ma with BSca and replace mirror Mb with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to determine the interference patterns both sets of photons are creating at D0.
 
The following experiment will provide evidence of aether displacement.

Refer to the image on the right here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment

Instead of having a single beam splitter BSc have two beam splitters BSca and BScb. Replace mirror Ma with BSca and replace mirror Mb with BScb. Do not combine the red and blue paths. Have additional detectors D1a, D2a, D1b, and D2b. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BSca be detected at D1a and D2a. Have the photons reflected by and propagate through BScb be detected at D1b and D2b. If you compare the photons detected at D1a and D1b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. If you compare the photons detected at D2a and D2b with the photons detected at D0, the corresponding photons detected at D0 will form an interference pattern. What is occurring is all 'up' photons are being detected at one pair of detectors, for example D1a and D1b, and all 'down' photons are being detected at the other pair of detectors, for example D2a and D2b. Interference patterns do not even need to be created in order to determine the interference patterns both sets of photons are creating at D0.

Yep, I got that the last 2 times you said. RUN YOUR EXPERIMENT ALREADY AND PROVE US WRONG OR SHUT UP PLEASE. :grumble:
 
The following experiment is evidence of the ether of general relativity.

"NASA Announces Results of Epic Space-Time Experiment"
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/

"Our planet spins, and the spin should twist the dimple, slightly, pulling it around into a 4-dimensional swirl. This is what GP-B went to space in 2004 to check."

And found.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the ether at every place determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the ether.

Watch the following video starting at 0:45 to visualize the direction of the force associated with the state of displacement of the ether as determined by its connections with the Earth and the state of the ether in neighboring places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ITt44-EHE

The aether is in the same state, or almost the same state, throughout the Earth's rotation about its axis and orbit of the Sun.

The GP-B experimental results explain the near-null results of the Michelson-Morley experiment.
 
The following experiment is evidence of the ether of general relativity.

"NASA Announces Results of Epic Space-Time Experiment"
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/04may_epic/

"Our planet spins, and the spin should twist the dimple, slightly, pulling it around into a 4-dimensional swirl. This is what GP-B went to space in 2004 to check."

And found.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places, ... disregarding the causes which condition its state."

The state of the ether at every place determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the ether.

Watch the following video starting at 0:45 to visualize the direction of the force associated with the state of displacement of the ether as determined by its connections with the Earth and the state of the ether in neighboring places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9ITt44-EHE

The aether is in the same state, or almost the same state, throughout the Earth's rotation about its axis and orbit of the Sun.

The GP-B experimental results explain the near-null results of the Michelson-Morley experiment.

All interesting stuff. How does this relate to your googfy idea of aether. Did you read the links? Did you understand the links? They do not support you. Neither does the you tube link. I was expecting it to be crap but it was pretty good. Why post these, they do not support your idea!
 
The GP-B experiment is evidence of the aether of relativity.
No, it is not. There is at least one alternative (which is actually a working quantitative model) which explains the GP-B results, general relativity. When you have more than 1 explanation to results the results are not evidence for any particular one of them, they are evidence against all others.

It's not really a case of supporting models but discrediting others. Eventually you wittle things down to a very very short list or a tiny corner of parameter space and you feel confident the resultant model is at least a good approximation. Adding more data further supports that proposition.

Since no quantitative model for aether exists there is no reason to think GP-B supports such an hypothesis.

Oh and I notice you have a 3 day holiday for just repeating the same nonsense. I hope afterwards you'll be a little more honest and engage in rational discussion.
 
No, it is not. There is at least one alternative (which is actually a working quantitative model) which explains the GP-B results, general relativity. When you have more than 1 explanation to results the results are not evidence for any particular one of them, they are evidence against all others.

It's not really a case of supporting models but discrediting others. Eventually you wittle things down to a very very short list or a tiny corner of parameter space and you feel confident the resultant model is at least a good approximation. Adding more data further supports that proposition.

Since no quantitative model for aether exists there is no reason to think GP-B supports such an hypothesis.

Oh and I notice you have a 3 day holiday for just repeating the same nonsense. I hope afterwards you'll be a little more honest and engage in rational discussion.

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein

The quantitative model for aether exists; it is general relativity.
 
@mpc --

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable" - Albert Einstein

So? Einstein was wrong. This is an argument from authority fallacy.
 
@mpc --



So? Einstein was wrong. This is an argument from authority fallacy.

Einstein was most correct as a teenager.

Einstein's 'First Paper'
worldscibooks.com/etextbook/4454/4454_chap1.pdf

"The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the elastic forces which cause [its] propagation, and inversely proportional to the mass of the aether moved by these forces."

The above more correctly stated as the following.

The velocity of a wave is proportional to the square root of the elastic forces which cause its propagation, and inversely proportional to the mass of the aether displaced by these forces.
 
@mpc --

Prove it. Oh wait, you can't. All you'll do is repeat the same bullshit which you assert by fiat that it supports your idea while ignoring the fact that there are alternate interpretations which fit the data better.
 
@mpc --

Prove it. Oh wait, you can't. All you'll do is repeat the same bullshit which you assert by fiat that it supports your idea while ignoring the fact that there are alternate interpretations which fit the data better.

What is the alternative interpretation which explains the offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring the moving galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves which is more correct than understanding the galaxy clusters are moving through and displacing the aether?

What is the alternative interpretation which explains the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment which is more correct than understanding the moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave?
 
@mpc --

Two or three alternatives have already been offered over the course of this thread, and even you admitted that they are legitimate alternatives. However you then did the stupid thing and brushed them off by asserting that your idea is a better fit for the data.

You never expounded on that either. You didn't present evidence that doesn't fit those models but does fit yours(we'll leave aside, for the moment, that you haven't actually presented a working model). You didn't present your line of reasoning leading you from A to B, the reasoning that led you to conclude that your *cough cough* model *cough cough* works better. You haven't done a god damn thing except restate your original premise some forty times by now. That is not a valid debate tactic, nor does it lend any credence to your idea. All it does is show that you're someone who hates being challenged to think any deeper than the surface.
 
@mpc --

Two or three alternatives have already been offered over the course of this thread, and even you admitted that they are legitimate alternatives. However you then did the stupid thing and brushed them off by asserting that your idea is a better fit for the data.

You never expounded on that either. You didn't present evidence that doesn't fit those models but does fit yours(we'll leave aside, for the moment, that you haven't actually presented a working model). You didn't present your line of reasoning leading you from A to B, the reasoning that led you to conclude that your *cough cough* model *cough cough* works better. You haven't done a god damn thing except restate your original premise some forty times by now. That is not a valid debate tactic, nor does it lend any credence to your idea. All it does is show that you're someone who hates being challenged to think any deeper than the surface.

No alternatives more correct than understanding the galaxy clusters are moving through and displacing the aether have been offered as to why there is an offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring moving galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves.

No alternatives more correct than understanding a moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave has been offered as to explain the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.
 
@mpc --

No alternatives more correct than understanding the galaxy clusters are moving through and displacing the aether have been offered as to why there is an offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring moving galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves.

This is merely your assertion. It's something that you assert is the truth, but you haven't given us any reason to accept it as the truth, you haven't provided any actual evidence.

No alternatives more correct than understanding a moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave has been offered as to explain the observed behaviors in a double slit experiment.

More unsupported assertions.

Give me something substantial damnit!
 
@mpc --



This is merely your assertion. It's something that you assert is the truth, but you haven't given us any reason to accept it as the truth, you haven't provided any actual evidence.



More unsupported assertions.

Give me something substantial damnit!

Provide a substantial explanation as to why there is an offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring moving galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves.

Can't, can you?

The reason you can't is because the correct explanation is the galaxy clusters are moving through and displacing the aether.
 
@mpc --

Provide a substantial explanation as to why there is an offset between the light lensing through the space neighboring moving galaxy clusters and the galaxy clusters themselves.

Can't, can you?

I don't need to demonstrate shit to be able to reject your claims. You've asserted their validity without providing any supporting evidence that your interpretation is right, as a consequence I can reject your assertion without providing any evidence that it's wrong as you've failed to fulfill your burden of proof. That which can be asserted without evidence can also be rejected without evidence.

The reason you can't is because the correct explanation is the galaxy clusters are moving through and displacing the aether.

Back it up. It's time for you to put your money where you've been putting your mouth for forty five vagina-swilling pages. And try not to engage in circular reasoning this time.
 
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