actor Charlie Sheen questions '9/11'

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duendy, you are a sad, unrequited fantasist with no life. You like to believe these conspiracy theories to brighten up your rather hum drum existence.

I have a life, I go places, do stuff, have friends. The real world is where I live my life.

See the difference? No, and you know why? Because you'd have to get off the sofa, you can't see it from where you're sat.
 
phlogistician said:
YOU are the worm, twisting your own words because you got caught out.



Tell you what, why don't you ask duendy why she mentioned Charlie Sheen, it would be way faster than your ninth grade debating school tactics.
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No. The worm here is you. You know nothing about debate. You twist my words, and call me names. You are a creep with no life. The only one that got caught out here is you. the fact is that you have no intention of legitimate debate. All you seem to want to do is call people names and flame. You are screwed up in the head with no sense of discussion. Everything to you is about debating tactics. Your a total idiot with no clue that nobody is trying to win any debate or hat the objective of a discussion is to understand points. You obviously don't know what the meaning of it is since you are only here to debate debate debate and argue argue argue.

You are a total bag of shit with no points to back up anything you say. In fact, you refuse to even state your position. A political debate is not the same thing as an academic discussion. The objectice of an academic discussionis to share ideas. The objective of a political debate is to win your argument no matter how flawed whether or not you beleive in what you are actually talking about.

GO DEBATE THAT WORM.
 
cool skill said:
No. The worm here is you. You know nothing about debate. You twist my words, and call me names. You are a creep with no life. The only one that got caught out here is you. the fact is that you have no intention of legitimate debate. All you seem to want to do is call people names and flame. You are screwed up in the head with no sense of discussion. Everything to you is about debating tactics. Your a total idiot with no clue that nobody is trying to win any debate or hat the objective of a discussion is to understand points. You obviously don't know what the meaning of it is since you are only here to debate debate debate and argue argue argue.

You are a total bag of shit with no points to back up anything you say. In fact, you refuse to even state your position. A political debate is not the same thing as an academic discussion. The objectice of an academic discussionis to share ideas. The objective of a political debate is to win your argument no matter how flawed whether or not you beleive in what you are actually talking about.

GO DEBATE THAT WORM.
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R I G H T ONNNNNNNN! Cool Skill. you said it!
 
duendy said:
R I G H T ONNNNNNNN! Cool Skill. you said it!
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TY.
The point is, that this fucktard is putting words into my mouth.
I never said that Charlie did have any sort of reputation.
Nor did I say that Charlie did not have any sort of reputation.

You cannot discuss Charlie's reputation unless you establish certain facts first.
My purpose was to establish that if somebody has a reputation, then the person would likely be risking reputation by

discussing unconventional ideas in public.

At this point of the discussion, I could really care less about Charlie Sheen. He could be the biggest joke of an

idiot on the planet next to phlogistician. Or, he could be the biggest genius on the planet. Who really cares? It's

not even an issue, yet this the dimwit decides to make a huge issue out of it, and goes into a rant about how terrible

Charlie's reputation is and bla bla bla. As if this has any relevance to the point. Then calls me names, and goes off

into a snivling rant about how I am trying worm my way out of something that doesn't exist. Really,is there anybody

that can be this damn dumb?


DISCUSSION:
Does Charlie have a reputation?
I have no problem stating my position, and discussing this with normal people. It is a factor in this discussion, but

there are other factors that need to be established.
For example, if we do not establish that Charlie made such comments, there is no point in discussing Charlie's

reputation.

Too bad all this asshole can do is whimper utter nonsense, call names, make personal attacks, distort my intended

meaning, accusing me of using tactics as if this is some kind of competition. 9th grade debating tactics? What an

IDIOT. WTF would anybody in a legitimate discussion need tactics for? Oh I forget. Fool philo is not interested in

legitimate discussion because he does not know how to have a legitimate discussion. Therefore, all he can do is rant

and rave. Pathetic really.

Let's see this moron's reasoning:

cool skill> Does an person/celebrety risk his reputation by discussing his unconventional ideas in public?
phlogistician> Goes into an irrelevant rant about Charlie Sheen.

3 WORDS: AVOIDING THE ISSUE


CONCLUSION:
This idiot is avoidng the issue. This idiot does not live in reality. He has been avoiding the issue from the

beginning.

I made a post on the 6th page. Philo responded to my post, but he responded to something different from my post. This

has happened dozens of time. I say apple. The person responds with arguments about oranges.

This is a typical psychological distortion similar to denial. It's not that a person is intentionally denying the

legitimacy your opinion. There is nothing wrong with that. It's that the person unintentionally denies the fact that

you have that opinion, is not able to tell you what your opinion is, and is completely unaware of it.

This can easily be seen when you have a difference of opinion with somebody. OR even when you do not, and the person

behaves as if you did.
All you have to do is ask the person: What is my opinion? Many people with this strange psychological distortion are

so self absorebed, they will be completely unable to tell you what your opinion is. Alot of times they will start

talking about their own opinion without even knowing it. They will say everything other than state your opinion. When

they really can't handle the brain activity, they start trying to force the conversation to someting else or try to

push the conversation over. That way, they do not have to confront the reality of your opinion.

So here I was making a post about apple, and this idiot responded with a post about orange. Therefore, I made a post

to check if he was actually living in reality. I posed a few questions in order to see if he knew what duendy's

opinion was. In fact, I can sum up the questions that I posed as "what is duendy's opinion?". Next thing you know,

none of my questions get answered. This idiot starts going insane. He continues with insults and random rants without

directly acknowledging the issue. He distorted what I was saying because he himself has a distorted understaning of

the issue, and the opinions of those in the discussion. He has no intention of answering the questions that I posed

because he has no idea what the subject matter even is. Discussing anything with him is like trying to play music with

a scratched CD. HE'S TOO TOTALLY STUPID to discuss anything legitimately.

Here is probably what this asshole is thinking: "Woo this is just some sort of debate tactic. Such debate tactics do

not work against me. This is after all a debate, and is all about winning. I shall win at all costs because I am not

interested in the opinion of others. I am only interested in my own opinion, and refuse to acknowledge anybody else

even has an opinion. In fact I don't really care about what anybody else's opinion is because this discussion is all

about me and my opinion."

ASSHOLE!
 
of course. and wont back up hispoistion that 911 was an inside job. just taunts people insubstantially for being conspiracy theorists. as to that wod will magic away any serious inquiry

but , yet still i a aware of not much interest about tis really important issue. why is this? ....someone can start a thread titled 'scratchin my arse' ad it'll go into 20 pages, but THIS ---all about investigation about whether our own governments are bombing us gets hardly any attanetion apart phlo who all he could muster was ...not much. hot air


so i am left high and dry at a SCIENCE forum filled wit apathetics about this.....??... i appreciate you reponses of course, andLeopold etc. but i expect MUC more intense interest to realy explore this. is it people feel totally powerless....?well at least share that. anything tan just no interest. it's just TOO importanto!!!
 
Well, we're not apathetic we just realize something you probably don't. Our governemnt is not stupid. Doing something like 911 is too big a risk for too little payout. A cessna loading with explosives and landing in front of the white house and exploding with only some minor injuries would have motivated us as a country. Something like 911 is just too sick and wrong. It has too much risk to be faked. No agency would risk it's existance by doing it.
 
TW Scott said:
Well, we're not apathetic we just realize something you probably don't. Our governemnt is not stupid. Doing something like 911 is too big a risk for too little payout. A cessna loading with explosives and landing in front of the white house and exploding with only some minor injuries would have motivated us as a country. Something like 911 is just too sick and wrong. It has too much risk to be faked. No agency would risk it's existance by doing it.
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Noooooooo. s minimal injuriou evernt outside the whitehouse.....? what the hell would THAT do? you dont understand the reason tese pople use TRAUMA. you admit 911 was traumatic, right? terribly so. what does trauma do?
it creates deep fear.
OF?
of a purported 'enemy' who has carried itout. this 'ememy' was VERY quickly mentioned soon after 9/11 wasn't it. before the dust settled!
why?
so as to create a patriotic backing for what was to come next.
dont you remember all the stars and stripes coming out even in such a cosmopolitan city like NYC, etc etc. reult right? almost pavlovian.
of COURSE the U.S government aint stupid dde. do you now think that they and teir behind he scenes people dont know how to play you?.....you know that in ordinary life tere are people called grifters, con men. they know hw o play you. well increase the mgnitude of that and what have you got?you got the System. and utter immorality. do you seriously believe that 3000 deaths would concern them for their empire dreams?? haven't they also--as a result of 9/11 created an ILLEGAl war where they've gone on to murder FAR more tan 3000 and the deaths amount and they use depleted uranium which is not only poisoning their own soliders but is contaminating the planet. is this not abject immorality?

so of COURSE that atrocity has been 'worth it' to them. heard of 'black gold'. Middles East, 'American' POWER in Middle East. yes??? yes??

wake up already!
 
I got it, and I agree that it is very naive not to be aware of what impact the con(gress)men could have on your life. Or everyones lives for that matter. They may be using patriotism to justify their own immoral acting, am I right? Your posts takes two-three times of readin', duendy, and even then I may not have got it right. :)
 
illuminatingtherapy said:
I got it, and I agree that it is very naive not to be aware of what impact the con(gress)men could have on your life. Or everyones lives for that matter. They may be using patriotism to justify their own immoral acting, am I right? Your posts takes two-three times of readin', duendy, and even then I may not have got it right. :)
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well glad someone is seeing this and communcating, rather than sing tis threa to trow in waste-spacing rubbish citiciss having nothing to do wit ACTUA investiagation. the Avatar......hmmmmm. hemakes it up as he goes along. you should read some of his stuff----contradictory BS aint in it. but tother day he actually supports me after some poster criticizes my typos, by putting out tat famous insigt tat it doesn't matter what you type--aslong as the first and lastletters rsemble the usual words then however scrambled they can be inderstood.....now, i admit i a not best typist in world but my shit is not as bad as that, which also can be understood.
i will try harder for you cause this is very important--not that i dont tink oter issues are not important. just please understand my system's limitations.
anyway. lets not get onto this,but continue wit subject. what mainly gave you a insight that 9/11 was an inside job?
 
I'm not saying that it was, I don't know, but saying that there's no chance that the government both can and will do that is pretty naive. The main issue for a government, is IMO, to be trustworthy, which the US government has proven itself not to be, over and over again.
 
the only crowd YOu can play to fool, is a CROWD of fools. have you tried myspace?
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No. Have you?

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Avata, interesting picture. is that how you see yourself....?
but this thread--as yu know is about 911. any thoughts about whats being said?
 
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Now, wasn't that tasty? Slurp! "Fresh" "thoughts" that "matter" on stuff that "matters".
Worth nothing, are nothing, is nothing. Same 'ol shite. Just oversocialised monkeys rubbing each other, searching for fleas and smelling each others' shite.
 
illuminatingtherapy said:
I'm not saying that it was, I don't know, but saying that there's no chance that the government both can and will do that is pretty naive. The main issue for a government, is IMO, to be trustworthy, which the US government has proven itself not to be, over and over again.
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i agree. and you confess you dont know.....? you dont know how REFRESHING that 'i dont know' is to my eyes, ears! cause it means you are willing to explore about it openmindedly

now would you feel it that theplace a lot ofpeople in is the same. and that many people react differently to tis 'i dont know' feeling??...some decide to get hostile, some hide, some ...whatever. and some want to get to the bottom of it. natrually feel teir detective juices flowin. that's me, and i cannot understand the pthy. THO i must admit i have gone thru phases where my focus has gone away frpm it. for example post 911 i went thru different phases, and one where i was kind OBESSED TO FIND OUT, TEN IT WANED AS I RESEARCHED AND DID OTHER SHIT. the WHEN 7/7 HAPPNED I GOT ON IT AGIN,AD FOUND OUT FURTRHE BIG CLUES LIKE occultic CLUES (SORRY BOUT CAPS. JUST LOOKED UP. i'm not shouting at you!)
we here are not insignioficnt little sheep. that is hat has been indoctrinated since god khows when, but we AINT. we have as much right to living well on planet Earth as anyone including all other species. and tis must include us speaking out against facism however we go about it. so i am urging peple to not put-down what we do here, even tho many sufggest its just typing or whatever...it's NOT. we shoudl repsct here and each other as people wih integrity to speak out aginst evil, and explore ways to live better
 
I get where you're heading, I've had the feeling myself a dozen of times. My quest, though is to find out stuff about God, and I've gone through quite a lot to get to the bottom of the reptilian agenda, new world order issue some time ago. But I found out that it's not worth wasting energy on it. People have a tendency to broadcast whatever disinformation they can come up with over the internet.
But of course, you've got a point. Everything that doesn't seem right should be worth taking a closer look at. It should be the people supervising the government, not the other way around. Unfortunately, that's not the case, so wandering around in our spheres, not caring, won't ever do us any good. There's no excuse to being ignorant. Being obsessed by it, isn't good either, though. It only takes our mind away from more important things like people-relationship and higher values whatever it may be.
 
illuminatingtherapy said:
I get where you're heading, I've had the feeling myself a dozen of times. My quest, though is to find out stuff about God, and I've gone through quite a lot to get to the bottom of the reptilian agenda, new world order issue some time ago. But I found out that it's not worth wasting energy on it. People have a tendency to broadcast whatever disinformation they can come up with over the internet.

m)you may notice i too have diverse interestshere, i flit about and talk bout othe stuff. not hopefully in superfical ways--to i can also do superficial too, in the necessary slot or whenever.
that repltilian shit yo talk of. aka Icke? he makes sense TILL he goes on with tat nonesense. ypu could ALMOST argue te case h is part of teir agenda to make conspiracy theory seem ludicrous. cause i hae heard many say that stuff like that puts them right off. it's just to plain silly and they dont wnna be associated with it. and they STOP investigating the NOT-silly stuff.'THAT's what i want to encourage, investigating how the system is workin us, from various angles

But of course, you've got a point. Everything that doesn't seem right should be worth taking a closer look at. It should be the people supervising the government, not the other way around. Unfortunately, that's not the case, so wandering around in our spheres, not caring, won't ever do us any good. There's no excuse to being ignorant. Being obsessed by it, isn't good either, though. It only takes our mind away from more important things like people-relationship and higher values whatever it may be.
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dont cocfuse obsession with pasion to find out tho. i mean we hae to see the urgency of it all. tat if noone gives a shi then noone gives a shit....! then te powers that be think 'shieeeit we have done THAT this and the other and no one gives flyin fuck....heyyyyyy yippeeeee. what next!...droolin

let me give you tis --seemingly to some trivial analogy. but not to me---we have local park. through it is a brook , really lovely and wildlife depend on it. but inthe past pople have just trashed it, like it a rubbish tip. so me,and several others had initiative to cleacn it up. andswe told park people and head dude said how GLADhe was that SOMEbody CARED...!
apthy breeds apathy, so we NEED people wit passion
 
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