Since Hamas itself is existentially an act of war on Israel, it only seems fair.
Zionist piracy
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Since Hamas itself is existentially an act of war on Israel, it only seems fair.
out of 700 or so people and a sudden attack against them someone's fight or flight instinct is going to say fight. no maybe if the Israelis didn't go in in a state of full on assualt mode they wouldn't have gotten a response like that. with what I have seen and read it seemed the Israeli attack was dewsigned to trigger a fight response from people so they would have an excuse to shoot.
ahah, as I expected.
The "peaceful protestors" were provocateurs and the innocent civilians were armed and attacking. So, as I had stated came true...and the premonitions of mass Israeli condemnation by Bells,SAM and company are finally shown to be the nonsense they are.
The "peaceful protestors" were provocateurs and the innocent civilians were armed and attacking. So, as I had stated came true...and the premonitions of mass Israeli condemnation by Bells,SAM and company are finally shown to be the nonsense they are.
No, not fair. In fact collective punishment is a war crime. Same as dropping white phosphorus over a city is. etc.
As Israeli repeatedly violates international law they could have used poison gas with less bad PR if they claimed one of their ships carrying it had to be abandoned as it was leaking and drifted into the flotilla where it exploded. The "Israel can do no wrong" posters would support that line too.
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good politics promising and giving the votors what they want.
no it isn't. maybe if it was just weapons but food, building materials nope.
when has that ever stopped you before from mindlessly defending Israel.
as usual for a pro ISrael person what you know is bullshit. they have been forced to violence do to the suppression of their nonviolent protest which routinely get violently attacked by the thugs you defend.
No it shows them being defended against.
So it used the most violent and mostlikely to get people killed method. Bullshit. they wanted to harm and punish these people for having the audacity to stand up to them/
they were peace activists but than again they wanted to help palestinians so I guess to your fucking bigotry that means they deserved to die like the palestinians who want to be left alone in their own lands.
An indisputably illegal hijacking of a ship in international waters for whatever reason that leads to conflict and casualties is criminal, period.
That you can attempt to defend clear criminal action is regrettable.
As to your points.
1.) If the Palestinian people were not oppressed, starved and imprisoned, there would not be humanitarian interventions. As it is, this is a noble example of human empathy and should be (by any decent human being) supported and admired.
2.) People should expect at a minimum that Israel should not violate international law. This action is indisputably criminal and frankly disgusting. Period. And speaks volumes around the unpredictable nature of the regime in Israel.
3.) The Media presence is aimed at raising awareness of the gravity around the Palestinian plight. An issue that is generally ignored by the Western corporate media. Note that this incident is so outrageous that it is being universally condemned, even buy the WCM.
This is another nail in the coffin for the Israeli State. :m:
and like any rational person we know if they did that not an ounce would get into gaza. fuck it would probably be used to build illegal settlements
haha, it might have been if there wasn't so much footage of "peaceful protesters" assaulting Israeli boarding parties.
It's sooooo "illegal" to board a ship in "International Waters", if you have a 6th grade education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKOmLP4yHb4
So they provoked a vicious attack designed to trigger a conflict. your full of shit. the Israeli attack was designed to cause a fight response. but of course right better every non jew die than one jew.
and Israel is existentially an act of war on the Palestinian people so as usual the pro Israel side has no leg to stand on
Nothing is an accident or a result of a sudden reaction in this incident: This journey was first declared to public more than six weeks ago. During this period, both sides increased the tension among its supporters; both had been very decisive for not listening to one another: Turkey was continuously sending messages which can be summarized as "we don't care about your embargo, we will come there and you can do nothing about it". And Israel was also replying with same blind decisiveness, yet a more precise message: "we will not allow this show and we will stop these ships at all cost".
Among all these reciprocal policy of stubbornness and built-up hatred, people's lives were the last thing on the agenda. To be more precise, the possibility of "martyrdom" and plans for marketing this was a juicy political gain for Turkey; and Israel had a long time to prepare its own "welcome" committee. Things have developed as it was planned and expected by both sides as everybody is shading crocodile tears now.
Among all these reciprocal policy of stubbornness and built-up hatred, people's lives were the last thing on the agenda. To be more precise, the possibility of "martyrdom" and plans for marketing this was a juicy political gain for Turkey; and Israel had a long time to prepare its own "welcome" committee. Things have developed as it was planned and expected by both sides as everybody is shading crocodile tears now.
You're just sad that the party you support is so savagely uneducated, where as the party I support (the Israelis) are intelligibly sharp minded.
Israelis intelligently smart minded? are you stupid. they act like stupid spoiled children. they played right into the protestors hands in showing them selves to be the violent thugs looking for conflict the are. The party I support is brilliant in constantly using the Israeli violent tendencies and arrogance against them. But than again you clearly eat up all that Israeli propaganda.
mmmMmMm, tastes like reality.
spoken like a true blind zealot who eats up propaganda.
However you want to paint it, seizing a ship by force in international waters is a criminal action defined as piracy. Your continued lack of empathy for needless loss of life at the hands of the IDF is noted. :m:
Correction for "international waters":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters
Blue parts are International waters, or more technically speaking "High Seas". No part of Mediterranean can be considered as "international waters". Plus this incident happened within the limits of Israel's "Exclusive Economic Zone" (200 nautical miles).
Correction for "piracy":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy
So government actions can not be defined as piracy.
I hope this will cost Israel dearly internationally.
They crossed the line by a mile here.
They crossed the line by a mile here.
Yah, you know what thats right.
If we essentially boil it down into who's life is more important any sane person would pick the Israeli.
Why you ask?
Because if you pick one Israeli he may be the person to cure cancer or to make a breakthrough in science and technology. If you pick any random Gazan they are liable to blow themselves up for a few dozen virgins.
If you want to boil it down into who's life is more valuable hoping in vain that you can terrify people into a moral dilemma it will not work.
There are 13 million Jews worldwide.
You tried to boil it down into which person is worth more. Now we cannot account for worldwide what type of person to compare because there are all types of abject poverty. So we are going to do this populationwise via the laws of supply and demand.
6.8 billion humans inhabit this world. The current Jewish population is around 13 million worldwide.
That means for every Jewish person there are 523.0769 other people (and I guess that ".0769" is maybe a pinky or something).
So yah, populationwise as far as endangerment goes the life of a Jewish person is essentially more valuable than that of some random Gazan whose death would probably involve 20 kilos of C4 srapped to his own chest with love from Gaza.
The sick and twisted logic that you seem to have hammered into your skull is that Jewish people like to pick off poor little Gazan children and their moms for the fun of it.
Have you ever asked yourself once why exactly they got into that situation?
Do you think if rather than try to invade Israel on it's independance they had brought their diplomats to start relations and to congragulate Israel that they would be in such a sh***y situation?
you provoked the bull now your getting the horns. You dont get the right to cry and whine like a child because you started it. We are ending it.
Correction for "international waters":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters
Blue parts are International waters, or more technically speaking "High Seas". No part of Mediterranean can be considered as "international waters". Plus this incident happened within the limits of Israel's "Exclusive Economic Zone" (200 nautical miles).
Correction for "piracy":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy
So government actions can not be defined as piracy.
Semantics. If you are defending what the EU, the UN and the International community is condemning as indisputably criminal, you are no doubt a formidable legal mind. :m:
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