Will the Church ever die?
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sowhatifit'sdark
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Even the Bible, I believe, posits an end to history. Judgement day, the return of Christ and all that. What point would there be for Churches when the heavenly and the material are unified?
No one has ever mentioned churches in heaven.
Or from the scientific perspective: the heat death of the universe or the Big Crunch should dissipate or smush any churches that manage to last however many eons scientists give us.
No one has ever mentioned churches in heaven.
Or from the scientific perspective: the heat death of the universe or the Big Crunch should dissipate or smush any churches that manage to last however many eons scientists give us.
sowhatifit'sdark
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Since you seem to be Christian, you might find that your Avatar is blasphemous. Since it is supposed to represent you.
Too true. Same goes for astrology.
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BlueMoose
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-By Church you mean Vatican ?
-Seen it all, doing it all
-I´m worst kind of Christian from your point of view I guess since I´m Agnostic cherishing our pagan mythology Kalevala, hell for me ?
-How about Muslims, their religion has been around only 1500 years, has their belief in their God any meaning ?
-Just that I could grasp what are you after.
Probably. If you want to take ignorance for a win, go for it.
-By Church you mean Vatican ?
-Seen it all, doing it all
-I´m worst kind of Christian from your point of view I guess since I´m Agnostic cherishing our pagan mythology Kalevala, hell for me ?
-How about Muslims, their religion has been around only 1500 years, has their belief in their God any meaning ?
-Just that I could grasp what are you after.
The Vatican has dealt with pagans before. Atheists are far more of a concern. Pagan beliefs, however absurd, still require faith. Atheists piss on faith. And yet, the Vatican has a long long history of dealing with atheists.
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BlueMoose
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1) -How will I be dealt ?
2) -Why concern ?
3) - My beliefs are absurd ? I believe Kalevala is a metaphor of the sun, stars, moon and the other planets and how they created us, metapfore of a universe and The God himself, and that there is lot of wisdom to be found in that book, how is that absurd compared to Vatican set of beliefs.?.
Enmos
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Examples ?
They either killed them or pandered to them by incorporating their ideas and holidays.
What is your point? Other then giving people information they already know?
Enmos
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1) You will be ignored as a raving lunatic.
2) God helps those who help themselves. Faith is a worldly as well as Heavenly struggle.
3) Kalevala has never existed. Jesus has.
I wouldn't be too proud of how the Vatican dealt with pagans...
That's one way. Rather harsh though.
And he is proud of that ?
Pandering, lobbying, sucking up to your boss. This is still in vogue you know.
Nazi Germany. Communist Russia.
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BlueMoose
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1) Thats good, I wouldnt want the treatment in former post.
2) I will be okay then I guess.
3) Kalevala is a metaphor of all things that have come to existence, we dont exist ? We have been in this before, you can not prove that Jesus didnt/did exist with better validity than that Kalevalas Mother God Ilmatar does/doesnt exist,
you blasphemous pagan
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BlueMoose
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Get your history right, Hitler and Nazis were heavenly involved in occultism ~ non atheist.
Yes, death is inevitable.
sowhatifit'sdark
Valued Senior Member
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Yes, the Vatican gave its blessings to the breaking of commandments in relation to pagans.
The Vatican sinned and encourged others to sin.
By Jesus' standards.
the church used to rule the world, but later science killed it. science rules the world today, but later i think it will die again.
the church died because it was wrong about things like... earth being the center of the solar system. science is wrong about big bang and evolution, so it will probably die.
the church died because it was wrong about things like... earth being the center of the solar system. science is wrong about big bang and evolution, so it will probably die.