Why worship?
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No, you don't.
You just believe you do.
But they are still seperate deities that can be worshipped individually. You can't seriously say that it's monotheism when there is more than one deity, just because one of them happens to be omnipotent.
From this very statement you have taken the position that you yourself know the truth, because to know my belief is false means you must know the truth yourself to be able to refute my beliefs,
Im all ears explain the universe to me then i might adopt your philosophy who knows.
peace/
I see you still haven't learnt any logic while you've been away.
Please demonstrate to us that this "truth" that you know is the truth.
Gladly after you answer my request i shall indulge but dont get me banned for preaching once i get started k?.
Lets hear your philosophy on existence and the universe im actualy interested to hear what you think because you rarely ever express your own beliefs you just usualy put others down.
peace.
You made the claim that you know the truth. Support it.
There should be no need to preach. At all. Unless your only support is to quote from the Quran or similar.
I won't even ask what the "truth" is, just answer the simpler question: How do you know that what you [claim to] know actually IS the truth?
My philosophy and beliefs are irrelevant.
Why? How can he possible know? Sure he can guess and make assumptions but what would be the significance? Maybe he is right...somehow, but we cant prove that either.
She's probably pretty pissed already that she's referred more often as a he.
or "who?"
My understanding is that both The Bible and the Koran teach of hell for the non-believers.
Lucky for me they are both fairy tales.
My understanding is that both The Bible and the Koran teach of hell for the non-believers.
Lucky for me they are both fairy tales.
From the total understanding of Quranic verses it would be very difficult to be a permanent resident of hell.
Considering every good deed you do can be counted up to 1000 good deeds, and even when you choose not to do a bad thing even marks as a good deed.
Your good deeds Vs bad deeds are so Bias and in favour of good it's really difficult to aquire more bad than good deeds. If you save one persons life it is also recorded that you saved the whole of humanity on your good deeds.
peace.
Can we please leave the meaning of polytheism and EssenceOfChi's beliefs to another thread. Thanks.
I believe that if a higher being doesn't want, need or care is he is worshipped or praised, then it a futile exercise to worship or praise him.
That's my point.
I believe that if a higher being doesn't want, need or care is he is worshipped or praised, then it a futile exercise to worship or praise him.
That's my point.
But are "higher beings" (since you introduced the term here) like that - that they don't want, need or care if they are worshipped or praised?
Oridnarily, when someone is in a higher position, they also have more obligations or are otherwise in a function to watch over those below them or to protect them.
As such it is simply by the virtue of their function that they are obliged to those below them.
That doesn't mean that those higher up will oblige every petition of those below, but as long as the petitions of those below are in line with the standards of those higher up, those higher up are obliged to answer those petitions.
So in that sense, as far as definitions go, God, as the higher being, does care about us.
The overwhelming experience in day-to-day life is that reverence and adoration for humans, animals, plants or nature sooner or later proves to be a less or more embarrassing and disappointing endeavor.
A woman may once have been beautiful and deemed worthy of adoration, but as she ages and loses her beauty, one feels betrayed that one adored her.
A man may have a great intellect that one reveres, but a car crash or Alzheimer's can turn him into a drooling idiot - so what then becomes of one's reverence for this man's intellect?
Tigers may seem so majestic - until one sees one with mange.
Flowers are so beautiful - but they wither within days.
So it is no wonder people are skeptical about adoration and reverence as such.
Notice how you used female beauty and male intelligence as your examples?, as per social conditioning the woman is valued for her looks where the man is valued for his ability.
Just an observation not picking at anything.
Interesting though huh.
Peace.
If you can differentiate between a democracy headed up by a council and a monarchy that directs their domain through a council, you can understand that there is more to this than simply numbers
If you can differentiate between one god and multiple gods, then you know the difference between monotheism and polytheism. It's not really super advanced stuff.