Why worship?

They don't need to be omnipotent for people to worship them. I don't know how you define polytheism. All I'm saying is that it's possible to have an omnipotent (over)god in a polytheistic religion. Like Tolkien's mythology and Catholicism.
If you have a singular (omnipotent) god technically its still monotheistic no matter how many demigods or expansions of the one one god's personhood are in existence.
 
But they aren't expansions of this omnipotent god. They are individual agents created by the overgod but with free will. Just like some argue humans have free will.
 
And also worshipped individually...

If that's monotheism I think it's a weird definition of it...
 
They don't need to be omnipotent for people to worship them. I don't know how you define polytheism. All I'm saying is that it's possible to have an omnipotent (over)god in a polytheistic religion. Like Tolkien's mythology and Catholicism.

Norse mythology also alludes to an "overgod" or "Allfadur". Most people consider this just to Odin, but there's some kind of reason to think otherwise. Might have just been the whimsy of 19th-century writers, can't recall completely.
 
Regarding the Aztec thing, the same applies to rituals, worship and sacrifice, and also to one god of a collection of gods. Why would a god care?

So worship brings a removal to this human experience? But you will get that whenever you die anyway.

Plus, the act of worship initiating it is the same as a god giving you X as it requires a god to do such a thing anyway. It seems if your praise influences him, then it is very much about "If I worship god, god will give me this".

Yes, but why would your god care one way or the other if one of approximately 100 billion individuals (so far) of a certain species praised him? Why would he punish you?

well for a starter, if the personality isn't omnipotent there is always the issue of maintaining the status quo
Sorry, what exactly do you mean here?

probably more accurate to call it an addition - for instance if you got removed from jail (ie set free) you probably wouldn't conceive of it as a removal issue
You were the one who said 'removal' first. OK fair enough, I now know what you hope to gain from it. But why would a god care one way or the other where you end up?


says who?
Well there's only a few options. Completely dead, reincarnation, or moving to a higher plane. If you are hoping to be removed of the human experience that must mean you believe that you will be reincarnated as a human should you not pray.


not really since its the act of worshiping god is an act of being socialized around god (which is the foundation for unconditional life)
Says who?
 
I'm not thinking what does it do for me, because I have never done it and never will do.
I am thinking what's in it for a god.

Why are you interested in what's in it for God?
What do you hope would be resolved with getting an answer to your question?
 
When an artist creates a masterpiece whats the first thing he usualy does?, put's it on display for others to "admire" because he wants peopleto acknowledge what he has done.


Find me an artist (apart from myself) who spends ages painting a master piece and then burns it.


Peace.
 
But they aren't expansions of this omnipotent god. They are individual agents created by the overgod but with free will. Just like some argue humans have free will.

You can think of them similarly as of the President's secretaries: The secretaries are not the President, but they have some connection to the President. If you want to get to the President, you need to get through the secretaries so it pays to do as the secretaries tell you.
 
People always seem to want to give god human weaknesses or to see him as a type of human like thing.

peace.

And yet you called God "him". seems like human nature. My point about OP was accepting these qualities as human qualities or even just common human weaknesses manifesting themselves.
 
When an artist creates a masterpiece whats the first thing he usualy does?, put's it on display for others to "admire" because he wants peopleto acknowledge what he has done.


Find me an artist (apart from myself) who spends ages painting a master piece and then burns it.


Peace.
Find me an artist who punishes his work for not telling him how great he is. :bugeye:
 
Find me an artist who punishes his work for not telling him how great he is. :bugeye:


When have you ever been told by god that he will punish you if you dont say how great he is. looks like he gave you free will to me, and even as much free will that you would even insult him thats how mercifull and lenient he is.


peace.
 
When have you ever been told by god that he will punish you if you dont say how great he is. looks like he gave you free will to me, and even as much free will that you would even insult him thats how mercifull and lenient he is.


peace.

Looks like one's will has to match God's will… or burn, but, don't worry, for "looks like" don't do anything, plus God cannot exist (see Lori's thread).

And here you go again not trying to prove anything but still saying how it is.
 
what's your point?

that despite there being several personalities involved, its really just a question of one and several others being afforded positions to the degree that they are acting on the behalf of the one.

You see the same phenomena in contemporary hinduism. Those with a polytheistic view work out of the understanding that you have to worship the demigods in order to receive the favour of them and those within monotheism view that that the collection of demigods are servants of visnu and that any worship they receive is subsidiary to visnu. (For instance in some temples all the demigods are offered identical offerings whereas in others one offering is made to visnu and then the same one is made to several other demigods in respect for their position).
 
When have you ever been told by god that he will punish you if you dont say how great he is. looks like he gave you free will to me, and even as much free will that you would even insult him thats how mercifull and lenient he is.


peace.
God's never said anything to me. I'm just going by what his book says.
 
Looks like one's will has to match God's will… or burn, but, don't worry, for "looks like" don't do anything, plus God cannot exist (see Lori's thread).

And here you go again not trying to prove anything but still saying how it is.



Well what else can I say when i know the truth?, I can't sit here and lie to myself or others thats dumb.


Like say you found a potof gold and then you were asked if you found the pot of gold are you going to say "nah i didnt find anything"


peace.
 
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