why we need ghosts

Magical Realist said:
Lot's of things fall outside of mathematical equations. Consciousness. And life. And love. And the struggle to be content in one's life. Why should the paranormal be any exception?
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I never said paranormal is an exception to all those *subjective* emotions and experiences. Imagination can indeed break universal laws, but that does not make them universal reality, it makes them is *personal* reality.
I anticipated this and that's why I suggested you also include the psychology of *subjective* experience in your new definition.
 
Write4U said:
I never said paranormal is an exception to all those *subjective* emotions and experiences. Imagination can indeed break universal laws, but that does not make them universal reality, it makes them is *personal* reality.
I anticipated this and that's why I suggested you also include the psychology of *subjective* experience in your new definition.
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LOL! You're a spastic mess. Move along dearie. I'm not interested in your backpeddlings.
 
Magical Realist said:
LOL! Ignorance of what? I've studied the evidence of the paranormal for 14 years. How long have you been studying it? Never...
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So, you are claiming to be an authority in ghosts and have the evidence to prove it. I say, you know as much about ghosts as I do and because I am an athority in photography I probably know more about (unexplained) phenomena in pictures than you.
It comes down to ; You are making the extraordinary claim, the burden of verifiable proof is on you. Not me.
What you are talking about is Tulpas, and that is a whole different issue.
 
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It comes down to ; You are making the extraordinary claim, the burden of verifiable proof is on you.
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I've provided quite a bit of evidence so far. If you are making the claim the evidence isn't real, then you need to back up that claim. Why are these photos not of real phenomena? Why did the rescuers hear the voice of that women from inside the submerged car? What was the motive to lie for a man who walks us thru his whole building relating paranormal experiences? Stuff like that..

I am an athority in photography I probably know more about (unexplained) phenomena in pictures than you.
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Well la dee da! Aren't you special! lol!
 
I have a drawing of a Unicorn made with crayons and glitter glue.

This proves Unicorns are real.
 
Nope. Doesn't work like that. The burden of proof is one the one claiming the photo is genuine, not the one disbelieving the claim.
 
Daecon said:
Nope. Doesn't work like that. The burden of proof is one the one claiming the photo is genuine, not the one disbelieving the claim.
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Nope..I provided the evidence. If you claim the evidence isn't real, you need to back it up. Show me why it isn't a real photo. But you can't do that, can you? Why you don't stick to claiming things you can actually prove?
 
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Why don't you stick to providing actual proof?

Oh wait, you've never done that to begin with.
 
Yazata:

Yazata said:
I don't think that we literally need ghosts, but I will say that I personally like the idea of scientific anomalies.
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Everybody likes the idea of scientific anomalies, not least the scientists themselves. Believe me, scientists love scientific anomalies. It means we don't know something and that there's something new to investigate (like you say).

But I prefer to think that there's more to reality than we imagine, and very likely more to reality than we can imagine.
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It's a matter of degree. The natural world has more than enough mysteries and unknowns to keep us busy, without having to invent the supernatural to distract us.

Magical Realist:

Magical Realist said:
Ghosts exist in many forms. Some are emotive imprints on the spin networks of the quantum vacuum. Others are intelligent shells or emanations or tulpas of consciousness. Others are transconstructual presences, like your mom in the kitchen when you're playing video games.
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And you know all this ... how?

Please explain what an emotive imprint on a spin network of the quantum vacuum actually is, if it's not, as I suspect, just gobbledegook.
 
And you know all this ... how?

Please explain what an emotive imprint on a spin network of the quantum vacuum actually is, if it's not, as I suspect, just gobbledegook.
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I used my radioactive high frequency discombulator. How else would I know this? :)
 
The existence of non-conforming events would mean that we don't have all the answers yet, and that amazing discoveries still remain to be made.

I realize that the idea that such things are even possible is likely to be extremely controversial on Sciforums.
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Magical Realist:

Magical Realist said:
I used my radioactive high frequency discombulator. How else would I know this? :)
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This is the best you can do?

You wrote:
Magical Realist said:
Ghosts exist in many forms. Some are emotive imprints on the spin networks of the quantum vacuum.
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So, what was that? Made-up crap off the top of your head? Something you read somewhere else that you didn't understand but which you thought sounded good, so you copied it here? Or what?

You're not really so stupid as to parrot words you don't understand. Or are you?
 
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