Hmm...What I heard is that the bible is the most shoplifted book. I just wonders....Originally posted by badcliq
the bible is the best selling book of all time
Hmm...What I heard is that the bible is the most shoplifted book. I just wonders....Originally posted by badcliq
the bible is the best selling book of all time
You can't even bother to spell my name right? Your passive aggressive dig is noted, ass.Originally posted by badcliq
westmorris
Ya see that's the thing, it's NOT. It's called "logic". You should check it out.Originally posted by badcliq
that just your personall opinion.
How do you know exactly what happened even if someone DID write it down? You don't really understand the weight of that question do you?Originally posted by badcliq
how do you know what EXACTLY happened unless someone wrote it somewhere?
ROFLMAO. Uhm... ROFLMAO. Kid, YOU supposed to be defending your eronious assumptions, though I do appreciate your efforts to bolster my argument. LOL. Man, you're clueless dude. Doesn't mean you aren't a good kid. You go study logic though, please.Originally posted by badcliq
Remember,assumptions doesn't count.
You're just completely missing the point aren't you? What would happen if I just believed anything anyone ever told me? If I had used your template for decision making, I'd imagine I'd long since be dead. Please, don't just believe anything anyone tells you.Originally posted by badcliq
No One could back it up or you can't accept what they told you?
Uhm, personally I haven't seen any. You? Sure, I've seen some on TV. If I showed you hurricanes for a week on the magic moving picture box would you think the world was gong to end? Would you keep looking outside your window looking for rain clouds? Please man read what I'm telling you and THINK. You are simply not employing your potential for reasoning.Originally posted by badcliq
Have you not seen more and more natural disasters lately?
To draw valid conclusions from data you have to know a lot of things. First and foremost, you need to understand statistics. I was allright at it when I was in college but have forgotten most of it. I do know that if you do not have a true representative sample your analysis is bunk. With that said is it possible for you to recognize that the frame of reference of "the 60s and 70s" is simplistic and improper for a study of global trends. You may be able to validly discuss short-run trends, but it wouldn't make much sense outside of the long term context.Originally posted by badcliq
back in the 60s or 70s, the rate of natural disasters happening wasn't even that much, it jumped rapidly in the past decades.
Originally posted by badcliq
Bible has already told us about that in the book of Revelations and the 4 gospels. There're still much more examples, have a read yourself.
I suppose me too. I can tell though, you're calling me "hard hearted" aren't you? Heheheh. Okay bro, if you need to think that I don't care. You should consider though, that you do not even remotely know me and from our brief interaction here I'd guess you really couldn't understand me at ALL without a lot of education. I believe that somewhat illustrates that your assessment is premature. If you want, ask around a little about me here. I'm well known and I don't think too many people would agree that my heart is hard (except for the theists who are pissed at me for calling them cult members, when in fact I'm correct according to the definition I read and further, I am very very bright when it comes to understanding the humans).Originally posted by badcliq
About Naive, in this cast i rather be naive than have a heart that's as hard as a rock.
tektonics.org is home of Tekton Apologetics Ministries. The
Originally posted by wesmorris
For the life of me I can't figure out why you christian types think the bible has any relevance regarding conversations on god. It makes me sick to see you spewing the bullshit you read in the bible as if it pertains in some way to something people other than you should deem 'holy'. I mean, I can respect your belief if you keep it to yourself but you can't can you? You have to go around talking shit like this book of tall tales gives you some kind of insight as to the creation of the universe of the purpose of man. You pompous jackasses don't have any more of a clue than anyone else, yet you try to "save the souls" (rather, indoctrinate into your cult) of the unbelievers eh?
So tell me, what is the bible at all relevant to discussions of god? Why is it at all relevant outside your limited cult world-view? Just because you have to somehow justify your eronious beliefs?
Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
wes - Let me let you in on a fundamental of christianty.
The bible is the word of god BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD.
Now if you can't get something as logical as that then GOD HELP YOU.....
Originally posted by wesmorris
LOL
Hehe.
Uhm.. I don't get it?
Hey man, you're fucking up my trap! LOL
Regardless, it's why anyone would beleive that tripe that perplexes me.
I realize it's inenevitable, but feel compelled to spread reason. I like the interaction. Some of the theists at least feign reason and regardless I like fraternizing with the other humans, even if they are fundamentally presumptuous regarding the fate of my everlasting soul. Praise Jesus.Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
Blame the amygdala, blame the endocrine system, blame the pre-frontal lobe.
Agreed.Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
The predisposition isn't their fault - but the ultimate choice is their fault.
That is a succinct way to put it, agreed. I usually use the term "meme" in conjunction with "cult" but cancer works.Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
Religion is a cancerous 10 thousand year process of our very own mental evolution.
I can't. I agreed with all the other stuff but this one is too much. I refuse to think it's horrible that I am who I am because I dig me damnit... plus, I SO love my family. They are the bawmb. The they that they are could not be in another time. I realize it's just the details and what's the difference and all, but it's the details of that I love... they are so wonderful. I'm constantly hugging them in my mind. Dig my sweeties!Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
Wes - Agree with me that what is horrid is not what they believe but that we had to live here and now, and not beyond this cancer eh?
Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
Damn any god that puts me here and now.
Have you not seen more and more natural disasters lately? back in the 60s or 70s, the rate of natural disasters happening wasn't even that much, it jumped rapidly in the past decades.
Originally posted by badcliq
well, you guys can say all you want about the bible...i've met a lot of people like you guys...denying, thrashing the Word of God...but that doesn't bother me much at all....afterall, it's your choice.
hmm...one more ques to wes, if there's no God. who made earth, universe, us? evolution? big bang theory? *just curious*
Originally posted by badcliq
hmm...one more ques to wes, if there's no God. who made earth, universe, us? evolution? big bang theory? *just curious*
Originally posted by wesmorris
I don't know (though there are some excellent theories). Why can't you admit that you don't either? I mean, it doesn't really matter if you admit it or not because regardless - it is unknown, as such you do not know it even if your cult tells you that you do.
Shall we delve deeper?
Afterthought: If you have low standards as to the information which you take to be known, it seems quite likely that the quality of your analysis will be lacking.
Originally posted by okinrus
When most people mean when they say the bible is the word of God, they mean that it is God's instruction. They do not mean that God manually dictated the words.
Originally posted by LogicalAtheist
You waste energy that way - if you laugh at him then he will in fact have contributed to you LIVING LONGER - and will have thus helped the atheist truth be spread which is exactly what his little mind wishes NOT to do.
Well no, not just reading it. They will have to follow what Jesus said in it.That's exactly what I mean. Why should one presume to think that they can gain comprehension of their self-proclaimed creator of the universe through reading a popular book?
We believe that the magnificents of the creator is his goodness. And being the source of all goodness we know him by doing good as no one can do good without him.Why does the bible have any bearing on something as magnificent as the creator of the universe.
Yes, but we still use logical thinking. Perhaps God is above logical thinking, but we wouldn't want to throw out those books correct?Don't you even extend your god the credit to be more than you could possibly comprehend?
I haven't made any claims above the fact that God is good, loving and caring. If he were not these things, we would not exist.You say you WORSHIP this thing and then try to talk shit like you know something about it. YOU CAN'T, if you WORSHIP your god, how can you pretend to make claims regarding its properties, isn't that the minimum acceptable level of humbleness before the god that YOU profess?