They are responsible gun owners until they suddenly aren't. You just never know.
Why is gun control so difficult in the US?
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and this here shows your dishonesty and why you call your self the champion for common sense gun regulation a joke. you clearly feel any restrictions and illegal.
They don't use guns in the UK.
yes it fucking is. thats the problem. when you refuse to allow problem to be fixed because of some shadow threat you made up in your head.
im sorry but the so called "responsible gun owners" are the fucking problem. when they throw a goddamn temper tantrum at even the most modest attempts an control guns they are the problem. there is a reason a good portion of the guns used in crimes come from states with loose gun laws.
So we should assume everyone is insane?
I don't have statistics on hand. Is the murder rate higher or lower in cities with tighter gun controls?
To paraphrase Animal House - they f*cked up; they trusted him.
Nope. But we should plan for that possibility.
Gawdzilla Sama
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And probably not even then: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180225184123.htm
first off going by city is problematic because if a city with tight laws is in a state with loose laws it makes it harder to tell. by state tighter gun laws reduce homicide rate. oh and those guns used in those areas tight gun control with higher rates were bought in states with loose gun laws. lets be honest your probably refering to chicago but if anything chicago proves gun control works and people who want loose gun laws contribute to the homicide rate. 43% of guns in chicago came from illinois but out side of the city. 53% came from out of state. right wing states with loose gun laws are responsible for most of the guns being used in crime.
And when you walk the streets, everyone is a potential danger?
Again, I don't have the statistics. Would it give you comfort to know that most murders are committed with handguns and not semi-automatic weapons?
Sure - they are potential dangers, but very small ones. Other common dangers when walking the streets (i.e. skin cancer due to sun exposure) are much more likely to kill you.
your not even wrong. you managed to say something so stupid to call it wrong would not accurately describe how far off base you are. Most handguns are semiautomatic. semiautomatic means for every trigger pull one bullet is fired. someone better versed than me would have to say but i believe all pistols outside of antiques are semi automatic. so no it wouldn't give me comfort. and perhaps before you talk about things you clearly lack the knowledge to discuss you should get some statistics and learn what relevant terminology means. for fucks sake
Gawdzilla Sama
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You can still buy revolvers, they're nowhere near extinct.
i forgot about them or more accurately i thought they qualified as semiautomatic
But what are we bemoaning?
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You're right, lets not confuse terminology.
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They're going to have to hurry, if they want to set up a Tea Party or No Labels or NeverTrump or Real Republican or Trumpism Begone or something, as they did after W's Hindenburg of an administration spread its wreckage all over their TV screens. They had years of warning and preparation time on that one - it's going to be months, with this guy. I doubt they have time.
Meanwhile, Trump will have never said that in a few weeks. Also, Hillary was going to a lot worse. Also, Obama failed to do anything about guns. And most black victims get shot by other black people, so criminals are the problem not guns.
We're dealing with the core voting base of the Republican Party, and it's not going anywhere. The goal is to beat them at the polls, thoroughly, and never have to take them seriously again.
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1. Trumpian logic: push for the impossible to get what you would be fine with.
2. The 2nd amendment is going nowhere, no matter how badly one wants to ban guns.
3. Leaping from banning guns to authoritarian rule is a big fucking leap
Is it ok that the government regulates that lead not be in my water? Well yes. Is it ok that the government regulated banks such that they don't crash the economy via poor lending schemes? Yes. Is it ok that the government infringe my natural right to murder and rape whom ever I want? Yes.
Yeah and how many just general gun murders by random citizens? Maybe the police would kill far less people if they were not being attacked with a gun?
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