Why is gun control so difficult in the US?

[iceaura]

The latest poll, of registered voters: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000163-8a22-d9c0-a1f3-feb320370001
See pages around 122 and down.

Highlight: About (over) 90% of the polled, and about (over) 90% of the gun owners among the polled, support background checks on all gun sales strongly or somewhat.
About 90% of Republican voters likewise.
That is about twenty points higher than the already strong majority percentage (67 shade 2) who favor stronger gun control laws of any kind, demonstrating once again that a large fraction of Americans either does not realize that universal background checks are not already required, or does not think of them as "gun control" legislation.

 

[Vociferous]

Sure there is. There's a couple of them. But they're subsets of American mainstream - except for the ethnic Somali, etc.

So they're subcultures that do not appreciably differ from their parent cultures?

That's a bit dangerous, in that assuming it is true weakens governance and grants the privileges it assumed. That's harder to extricate from than slip into - like a culture of bribery, everything adjusts to fit.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, in other words.

No assumption involved. California clearly believes its law enforcement can use weapons civilians can't.
Tell it to Californians.

We hope. But if they get poorly written laws that stick, you're going to be stuck with them.

No, I live in a free state.

So:

Ice: Pretty much everybody wants universal background checks.
Vociferous: again, this is a false claim

I posted six polls, all showing pretty much everyone wanting universal background checks. You've decide that all of them are invalid. (I suspect you will next try to redefine "universal" or some such.)

Must be nice, being able to reject any and all facts that disagree with your political agenda. I imagine there's no need to ever re-examine your positions when you do that. Good for you.

Read it again. I didn't mention all of them. Look at how many respondents actually know what they're talking about. Look at history to see how public opinion polls rarely translate to political will for specific policies.

 

[iceaura]

So they're subcultures that do not appreciably differ from their parent cultures?

Not "parent" cultures - companion, maybe.
Yep. They are American mainstream, part of the one encompassing culture, according to your link criteria.

No assumption involved. California clearly believes its law enforcement can use weapons civilians can't.
Tell it to Californians.

Your bogus assumption had nothing to do with California - and you know it. [That's harder to extricate from than slip into - like a culture of bribery, everything adjusts to fit.]

"We hope. But if they get poorly written laws that stick, you're going to be stuck with them."
No, I live in a free state.

That won't stop them. You can't say you weren't warned.

Read it again. I didn't mention all of them. Look at how many respondents actually know what they're talking about. Look at history to see how public opinion polls rarely translate to political will for specific policies.

The large majority of Americans, including most Republicans and more than 80% of NRA members, favor universal background checks. This is a fact. To deny it you not only have to dismiss dozens of polls taken over the past thirty years, but assume the best and most thorough of these polls are wrong by twenty or thirty points.

It's so much favored that many people - even NRA members - think it already is law. That's common enough to be a recognized obstacle in breaking the bothsides jamb - the gun nut side tends to be especially deluded in that regard.

 

[billvon]

Read it again. I didn't mention all of them.

I am fully aware you cherry picked.

Look at history to see how public opinion polls rarely translate to political will for specific policies.

So:

Ice: Pretty much everybody wants universal background checks.
Vociferous: again, this is a false claim
BVN: Here is proof that it is true
Vociferous: Well, OK, so what if everyone wants universal background checks? Doesn't mean a law will be passed.

Awaiting the next backpedal.