Yes I am. Prove me wrong Woody. But then again why bother with proof? I thought it was all about faith with you weirdos?
The bible also says the jews should stone a man to death for gathering sticks in the wilderness on the sabbath Numbers 15:32-35. The sabbath is on saturday, so if I see somebody making a campfire at the campground over at our local national forest that means I'm supposed to kill them -- right Snake Lord?
Yes. If you don't like it, argue the case with the guy who set those rules for you to obey and uphold. I didn't tell you to kill anyone, god did. Remember that. What's your excuse going to be? "Sorry god I couldn't obey your laws because I was more worried about human laws"?
Things sure have changed a lot since Moses and Aaron led the Children of Israel out of the wilderness, haven't they?
Sure they have, but as the bible says: god never changes, and as jesus says: not one dot, not one stroke will be removed from the law, and that you are to follow all of them.
I can see you have a distinct problem with that, but the fact remains you're failing to obide by god's laws. Get to work Woody before it's too late and you join the masses on intelligent people down in hell.
Here's another one -- stone a son that dishonors his jewish father or mother, but then we wouldn't have any children left now would we?
Sure we would. My daugher has never dishonoured me in any way whatsoever. If others have, it's a parenting problem.
Or stone a woman caught in adultery. We don't have enough stones around here.
My wife has never cheated. If others have, it's a partner problem.
Y'all have some stones to spare in your neck of the woods?
Plenty. I'm sure there are more stones on the planet than people.
I wonder why they don't stone men for adultery too?
Because guys are the masters of women, so sayeth the bible, and as a result can do whatever they want.
He told me to kill myself when I was feeling quite depressed. Things were not going well after I called off a marriage with my first fiance. The voice was audible. He said "Go ahead, Do it!" I was driving in my car. It's the only time in my life I have ever heard an audible voice from a spirit. My radio was not turned on. He wanted me to run off the interstate and land on a road below a bridge. Odviously I did not take his advice. I never do.
An interesting story, that provides quite some insight into your frame of mind. But I would like to ask how you knew the voice belonged to the devil.
I think his followers are sadly deluded.
Perhaps, but no more than anyone else who believes in sky beings and other non existant entities.
The devil gets mad because he hates being brought into the light for examination. He is quite embarrassed.
Here's the thing: According to the bible the devil has been locked up, and wont be released for a while. If he's locked up, how does he still manage to get upto naughty business?
I used to live with the Devil when I was into sorcery. I left his camp when I became a christian and he really hates that.
Question: When you were into 'sorcery', did you actually make any successful spells?
He had everything and lost it because it wasn't enough for him. He wanted to be God, and God gave him the boot. Now he wants to proove God is wrong with the same kinds of arguments you make.
god and the devil also debate on forums? Impressive. If not, how do you find out about the details of their arguments?
He hates being wrong, just like you.
Well, that's a pretty worthless assumption. I don't mind being wrong at all, it aids you in being right the next time round. Of course, to be 'wrong', one must be shown details concerning how they're wrong. I've never seen a christian manage that to any suitable degree.
He wants all of mankind dead.
If he wanted that, he could easily do so. All he would need do is possess the 60% of humanity that aren't priests or virgins and get them to sacrifice everyone else and then each other. Hardly a problem.
He thinks we are squatters on planet earth.
But we are. As god informs us:
Leviticus 25:23 "The land must not be sold permanently, because the land is mine and you are but aliens and my tenants."
We're aliens, we're uninvited guests. We don't belong on this land.
By saying he's wrong, you're disagreeing with god.
He has allegiance to nobody except himself -- the totality of selfish, self-centered, ruthless ambition.
So does god.
The word "fear" is an old english word that has changed in meaning in its modern day useage. The correct word in modern vernacular is the word "respect." Every father wants respect, I do, you do, and so does any other that is worthy of the name father. The Father in heaven also wants respect. There is no fear in love, you should know that.
You're disagreeing with god once again. And in my profession I can tell you there's a lot of fear in love: Fear that the person will leave you, fear that the person will die, fear that you're not good enough for them, etc etc etc.
It is insanely common for fear to walk alongside love.
I think I covered these already. Anybody for a good campfire stoning? I don't want to go to jail anyway.
Thank you for proving my point. You're more worried and concerned about the rules set by man as opposed to the rules set by god. Putting man before god.. tut tut.
What if I did go around stoning people? What would you think of me then?
Since when did what I would think about it matter? It's not what I think, it's what god says and thinks thats important. No?
As I said before, I am not a jew wandering in the wilderness with Moses and Aaron leading me around in a dangerous land with nothing to eat and nothing to drink, but only what God provides directly from heaven (manna). I've never tasted manna.
Oh I see. So when you get to the pearly gates you'll tell the god of the jews that: "Hey man, I'm not a jew, why should I listen to you"?
I guess I'm supposed to starve until he sends manna my way, right?
If that's what god asks of you, then yes. Ye of no faith. As jesus says: don't store food away but have faith in god to keep you fed. Like the bird.. it doesn't store it's food, and yet god provides for it.
What area might this be, the loony bin where you work?
I'm sorry, weren't you the one whinging at me about having no empathy for those with mental problems etc? Isn't it derogatory to imply that they're loonies? Hypocrite?
Yep, that's the voice of my God alright, and I will continue to follow His voice, not yours.
Of course you will. You'll follow along like a good old sheep until the time comes when you fall off the cliff.
God changed me from a worm to a child of God. I see you admit that there was a change. It's odvious to anyone that knew me before I changed.
Morals are a consequence of the change that was made, I already had some pretty good morals -- I would never, for example kill, someone. But I had my flaws the same as any other person.
This is unfortunately irrelevant to what I said. Your morals, your ability to understand good and evil - came from the serpent - against god's wishes. god wanted you to remain without morals, without understanding of good and evil. The serpent went against him, and thus the only one you can thank for being turned from a worm is the serpent.
