Where will you go when you die...?
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Woody said:
That's almost as many people as Steven Greer claims has seen UFOs. You know what, none of those assholes can prove shit either. Still, I'd like to see the 500 names of the people that supposedly "witnessed" the alleged christ's alleged resurrection. Otherwise, its more circular bullshit evidence.
People don't get punished for not believing in something. Let's make an example for a moment here. At times I question wether he really exists or not, and did I die or something horrible happen to me? I don't think so. But since you claim to be 100% sure that you're right, humor me for a moment here. Show me real proof that actually backs up those statements you are making here.
Do christain preists eat nonveg food ?duendy said:
Mythbuster said:
Christians believe that God created the Earth. They also believe that the only thing that God asks in return is that they believe in Jesus Christ. God give mankind every opportunity to believe in Him. If God created the world for mankind only for us to turn our back to Him, can you blame him for being a little pissed?
I will not go anywhere.
I will merely cease to be.
My body might get buried or cremated - I dunno. But nor will I be around to actually care. That is for those left behind to concern themselves with.
"Why fear Death when you and He can never be in the same place at the same time.
It is DYING that you should fear." (anon.)
I fear the knowledge that should I die an untimey death, my loved ones will grieve and suffer pain. I won't be aware of it at the time, if I am simply dead, but I'm aware of it now, and I can still say right now that the idea is horrible, horrible.
This is why I'd rather die suddenly and with no warning at some ripe old age. I cannot imagine lying in a hospital bed and dying from cancer at age 50 and having to endure tearful goodbyes and know just how miserable the whole situation is.
This is why I'd rather die suddenly and with no warning at some ripe old age. I cannot imagine lying in a hospital bed and dying from cancer at age 50 and having to endure tearful goodbyes and know just how miserable the whole situation is.
marv said:
I'm going wherever Jesus is. I place my eternity on him.
If he never existed then I will not exist when I die. (I am no worse off than an atheist)
If he is in heaven then I will be in heaven. (Then I am far better off ).
If he is dead and in the ground, that is where I will be. (I'm no worse off than an atheist).
If he is in hell then that is where I'll be. (Hell wouldn't be so bad with Jesus there).
What have I got to lose?
Woody said:
Your integrity and sense of self and self-responsibility. But other than that, nothing really.
In my experience, religious people cling to the idea of heaven as a reward for their blind faith. They cling to it so strongly that the good deeds they do are driven by the selfish need to ascend to some mythical place and be amoung the chosen. It's so nice to fit in, isn't it? It is so nice to have visions and promises as a reason to be a good person. Because being good for goodness sake is out of the question and a silly thought. Damn those disbelievers despite the amount of good they do for the world.
Hell is just a fear tactic used to keep you brainwashed and in control.
When we die, we become worm meat. We become earth again, just as animals and others do. The most comforting thing in the world for me is to know that I have done good things to make an impact on humanity, and to make the world a better place... not to make a place off this world for my own personal comfort. I will not be remembered as some idiot who spoke of free will and had none.
I too dont wana be immortal but I do want to die whan I want , Live as long as I want and Live with a young body till I die.
Kotoka said:
integrity
One entry found for integrity.
Main Entry: in·teg·ri·ty
Pronunciation: in-'te-gr&-tE
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English integrite, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French integrité, from Latin integritat-, integritas, from integr-, integer entire
1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values : INCORRUPTIBILITY
2 : an unimpaired condition : SOUNDNESS
3 : the quality or state of being complete or undivided : COMPLETENESS
synonym see HONESTY
responsibility
One entry found for responsibility.
Main Entry: re·spon·si·bil·i·ty
Pronunciation: ri-"spän(t)-s&-'bi-l&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 : the quality or state of being responsible : as a : moral, legal, or mental accountability b : RELIABILITY, TRUSTWORTHINESS
2 : something for which one is responsible : BURDEN
My employers disagree with your assessment . They tell me I'm one of the most accountable, honest, and ethical people they've met. I am completely trusted with everything including the company's money wherever I work. I am given large capital equipment projects to install.
So what exactly do you mean?
integrity
One entry found for integrity.
Main Entry: in·teg·ri·ty
Pronunciation: in-'te-gr&-tE
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English integrite, from Middle French & Latin; Middle French integrité, from Latin integritat-, integritas, from integr-, integer entire
1 : firm adherence to a code of especially moral or artistic values : INCORRUPTIBILITY
2 : an unimpaired condition : SOUNDNESS
3 : the quality or state of being complete or undivided : COMPLETENESS
synonym see HONESTY
responsibility
One entry found for responsibility.
Main Entry: re·spon·si·bil·i·ty
Pronunciation: ri-"spän(t)-s&-'bi-l&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
1 : the quality or state of being responsible : as a : moral, legal, or mental accountability b : RELIABILITY, TRUSTWORTHINESS
2 : something for which one is responsible : BURDEN
My employers disagree with your assessment . They tell me I'm one of the most accountable, honest, and ethical people they've met. I am completely trusted with everything including the company's money wherever I work. I am given large capital equipment projects to install.
So what exactly do you mean?
SkinWalker said:
I thought you were going to buzz off.
All the disciples said they saw Jesus after he died, and also the apostle Paul. They were all executed because of their faith (except John) so you won't be talking to any of them.
Your calendar says Jesus came. Is it circular?
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I mean that believing in a God or Gods who would condemn others for simply not believing, is a corrupt value system. And the fact that you have to believe makes you an incomplete person who cannot and will not be honest with himself. And people who believe and invest so heavily in heaven, have no real responsibility for their actions. When God will forgive you and let you into heaven if you ask for forgiveness and believe in him, where is your personal responsiblity. We are not talking about your individual personality here, but your entire moral and values system.
What kind of God would stone someone to death for being gay? What kind of God would place so many demands and strict rules on his followers when he cannot and does not follow those rules. What kind of God makes women nameless? What kind of God does not look out for all of mankind but just those who follow him? All religious Gods comes from the same ideal, and it's all crap. Fundementally flawed, illogical and anti-social. Religion will be the death of us all, because of people who allow themselves to be so stupid.
If God so loved the world, why is he so hell bent on dividing it?
What kind of God would stone someone to death for being gay? What kind of God would place so many demands and strict rules on his followers when he cannot and does not follow those rules. What kind of God makes women nameless? What kind of God does not look out for all of mankind but just those who follow him? All religious Gods comes from the same ideal, and it's all crap. Fundementally flawed, illogical and anti-social. Religion will be the death of us all, because of people who allow themselves to be so stupid.
If God so loved the world, why is he so hell bent on dividing it?