Rape culture has nothing to do with " policies " .
These weird arguments come from a bit of European imperial philosophy that describes all wars being started by defenders; I believe it was Von Clausewitz who argued that wars could be avoided if defenders would simply give over to invaders.
We've seen versions of it in conservative rhetoric over the years; there are some who think sweatshop and even child labor exploitation only happens because people are victimized by the laws against it. To the one, none can account for what happened before we started enacting various labor laws; child labor and mines, for instance, is a particularly terrifying chapter of human industry. To the other, none ever really specify whether they mean the evasion is a reaction, which is the most implicit meaning, or the classic point that there are no such criminals if there are no such laws.
In this case, either path works. Just fill in the blanks, and, yeah, it's just a way to blame victims: Either rape culture is a reaction to the proposition of woman's humanity and human rights, or else we would need to accept there would be no rape if there were no laws describing rape. Neither outcome speaks well of men, but that is what happens when rape advocacy forgets that men are among rape victims. The numbers are difficult to discern, but something between twenty and forty percent of us have been there, yet our general masculine cultural regard for rape of men is either witchy-woman, ballstomping fetish porn, prison and barracks jokes, or a catch-all for how we feel when we don't get our way. (If in sports and competitive video games, you were either robbed or routed, then you were raped, as it goes these days. Yeah, great, guys. Thanks. We ... we really, really need that.)
But, yes, the general idea of our neighbor's argument is to denigrate men in order to blame women. Or, you know, at least ... as near as I could tell.
And that's the least dangerous thing about it.
To denigrate men was not my point at all .
And our neighbor's?
Explain
Well, you seemed to be responding to our neighbor's assertion about "policy"; I'm presently trying to figure out your subsequent point about not denigrating men without presuming too much; in between, I had thought I was on about where these weird arguments come from. To the other, I can go back and see the rest of the deleted post; it was a mistake to do so, as that was one heaping, steaming pile of vile. It would have been less discomfiting to simply stick with the remaining scrap, your quote from his line about policy.
Hmmm....it seems my post was taken to the extreme . Never meant to be anything but what I posted .
Rape culture has nothing to do with " policies " .
I'm sorry, but I have no idea ...
... okay, y'know, let's try this:
So, let us start right there: What are you on about? "Rape culture has nothing to do with 'policies'". Okay, great. Now, then, what does that even mean?
Rape culture has to do about attitude towards the opposite sex .
Respect . Without respect towards the opposite sex , rape will continue . Regardless of " policies " .
Great. Circular. Thank you so much.
I'm not a fucking psychic; I don't actually care, anymore, what your problem is. Still, if I had to take a guess, it's that you're looking for a fight.
Whatever.
Great. Circular. Thank you so much.
I'm not a fucking psychic; I don't actually care, anymore, what your problem is. Still, if I had to take a guess, it's that you're looking for a fight.
it is circular. you need policies that don't condone or encourage it but lower animal nature if fostered or allowed has no respect for policy. if people are raised a certain way or a society that directly or indirectly is sexist or patriarchal then that can contradict policy and foster or condone rape culture.
I really didn't read anything past of that first sentence I quoted and trust my attempt at sarcasm was not lost on anyone.
There are umpteenth billion counter arguments I could make to this but I'll just let it stand for all to see.The analogy is having one female dog go in heat. This will attract male dogs from near and far. In the cross fire of the male frenzy, female dogs who are not in heat, will get caught up in the frenzy due to the same uniform.