Another bait and switch. First you equate saying "Hello" to an adult you pass by in the street to loitering outside a primary school and saying 'Hello' to children. Now you're talking about 'backsides'. Your attempt to obfuscate the issue is noted. By the way, you haven't provided a cogent explanation as to why you equated adult women with children.
I don't equate women with children. My point was that if it's okay to do to women, it's okay to do to men and children as well. Correct? After all, he's just standing there saying "hello, how are you?". So what would be the harm in your ex-boyfriend standing on a street corner and picking men or children and saying this to them as they walked past? Why are you dodging this? You said it's just saying "hello, how are you?". So what's the harm? You even said yourself before, that men apparently say hello to men they do not know walking down the street all the time. So why can't your ex-boyfriend stand on a street corner or on a street and just say hello to men as they walk past
in the same way the men in that video say hello to only women as they walk past? Why doesn't he do it to children?
Can you please show where I 'kept lauding' that the above examples were not street harassment? For your convenience, here is the post where I singled out what I didn't think constituted harassment in the video:
http://www.sciforums.com/threads/what-is-rape-culture.153010/page-11#post-3341664
Every one of the examples I gave were simple greetings, devoid of any possible sexual connotations. If you can find me saying otherwise, then please provide a quotation and source.
And I am saying that you should get your ex-boyfriend to stand on a street or street corner and say the exact same things that you deemed was not sexual harassment to men or children as they walk past. See how long he lasts.
Do you understand now?
You don't think it is sexual harassment but you are pushing back at the very thought of having your ex-boyfriend do this to other men or children? So it's only acceptable to do this to women? Where is the harm in that? It's just saying "hello", and "how are you?".
Tell your ex-boyfriend to say those comments in the same way as the men in that video said to that girl.
But examples of 'Hello, how are you?" are included in the 'Sexual Harassment' video. I'm arguing that simply saying 'Hello' to someone, or asking someone 'How are you going?' is devoid of sexual connotation, and in no way constitutes sexual harassment. Your continued attempts to muddy the waters with ridiculous analogies of little children and comments about backsides and pretty faces is further evidence of your propensity to misrepresent posters you disagree with.
And once more, context. Those men are only saying it to women. They don't do it to men. And they only do it to women who are not accompanied by another man. Context. They aren't saying hello and how are you going? to be friendly. They are doing it to be sleazy. Hence why if your ex-boyfriend acted in that exact same way towards a man or a child, he'd either be beaten up or have the police called, because it is sleazy and creepy behaviour to stand on a street and accost people in this way. Which is probably why you are dodging the very notion of your ex-boyfriend doing it.
Please show where I claimed I wouldn't find the behavior you described disconcerting. Please make sure you provide a direct quotation instead of your own summary of what you think I said, since you've previously admitted that you don't pay attention to what you read.
You have consistently defended the behaviour of the men in that video. Consistently. I don't need to link anything. You are still doing it. People just need to read your posts to see that. So stop dodging and stop trolling about it.
You don't think there is an issue with how those men behaved. They weren't just saying hello or how are you going. They were eyeing her up and trying to gauge a response from her and their motivation was blatant. They were sleazy and creepy and yes, they were harassing her. As I said, if you don't think standing on a street and saying hello to only women who walk past in a sleazy manner is harassment, then obviously this is normal behaviour for you. Is it?
Do you understand the very simple fact that women do not know these men and we do not know if we refuse to respond or if we do not respond how these men want us to respond, that it will not escalate? I have provided you with numerous examples of just how men who do this often escalate it to abuse, physical violence or even murder if the woman responds or does not respond as he expects her to. It's not that you don't find the behaviour disconcerting. It's that you have spent pages and other threads defending the behaviour to begin with. Or are you denying that? You scoffed at the video being an example of street harassment. Everyone else can see the sexual motivation behind these comments, why can't you? As I said, perhaps this is how you expect men to behave towards you.
But if you want an example of how it isn't acceptable behaviour, get your ex-boyfriend to stand on the street in the same way these men who were just saying "hello" and "how are you going?" and have him say it to either men or children as they walk past. I can assure you, he won't last long.
More to the point, do you think a man asking a woman on the street "How are you doing today?" is street harassment? This is a simple Yes or No answer.
Why would a man I do not know, have never seen before, who is standing on the street, suddenly decide to ask me how I am doing today as I walk past, going about my business? Why is he targeting just me or other women with this? If he is doing it to everyone who walks past, then he's obviously a tad strange because non-buskers or street sales people do not stand there asking everyone who walks past how they are doing today. If he is only targeting women and acting in a sleazy manner, then yes, it is clearly street harassment.
