Physics pwns everything.
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Mosheh Thezion said:I HAVE ONE.. can you tell me the chapter and or page??
-MT
http://vedabase.net/bg/11/en
BG 11.13: At that time Arjuna could see in the universal form of the Lord the unlimited expansions of the universe situated in one place although divided into many, many thousands.
BG 11.15: Arjuna said: My dear Lord Kṛṣṇa, I see assembled in Your body all the demigods and various other living entities. I see Brahmā sitting on the lotus flower, as well as Lord Śiva and all the sages and divine serpents.
Krishna describes His Oppulence;
BG 10.33: Of letters I am the letter A, and among compound words I am the dual compound. I am also inexhaustible time, and of creators I am Brahmā.
http://vedabase.net/bg/10/en
BG 14.3: The total material substance, called Brahman, is the source of birth, and it is that Brahman that I impregnate, making possible the births of all living beings, O son of Bharata.
BG 14.4: It should be understood that all species of life, O son of Kuntī, are made possible by birth in this material nature, and that I am the seed-giving father.
BG 14.27: And I am the basis of the impersonal Brahman, which is immortal, imperishable and eternal and is the constitutional position of ultimate happiness.
BG 15.18: Because I am transcendental, beyond both the fallible and the infallible, and because I am the greatest, I am celebrated both in the world and in the Vedas as that Supreme Person.
neither is a your subjective god.Pete said:Thanks Mythbuster, but Physics isn't sentient.
geeser said:neither is a your subjective god.
What for? We're talking about what the word "god" means, not whether God exists.preacher said:and evidence pete, evidence, show some f**king evidence.
An imaginary, mythological or otherwise ficitonal entity that is more powerful than a mortal, but less powerful than a titan or a uber frost giant (Greek and Norse Mythology).the preacher said:So please Define a god.
the preacher said:so as far as we know the one true god is made up from about 30 million others, is blue or grey, he exists but does'nt exist, and his name is krishna, or it's the sun.(this according to jan,vital, and qorl.
am I right so far.
they each pieced together a strange definition, but a definition all the same.
I would of liked a more sensible one, and the only one so far has come from an atheist "god is physics" that is a f**king good definition.
pete, dont try to talk logic with reasonable people your out of your, depth.
and evidence pete, evidence, show some f**king evidence.(wow superhuman, supernatural, "Bo**ocks")
or the sun, no I said you, jan and qorl, had made definitions, and yes I understood your definition.VitalOne said:Hey preacher,
I don't think you got the point of the quotes. God isn't one concrete definable thing. Also, you say that I said God is Krishna,
theres nothing sensible about a god and no sensible definition could come from someone who believes in a god, however I willing to listen to your views, although they can only be totally subjective.VitalOne said:however if you read those quotes you would understand "God" is not a particular person, and does not belong to a particular nation. Also a sensible definition exists in one of the quotes I gave:
hence why I said "it exists but does'nt exist".VitalOne said:"The Supreme Personality of Godhead has no beginning, no end and no middle. Nor does He belong to a particular person or nation. He has no inside or outside. The dualities found within this material world, such as beginning and end, mine and theirs, are all absent from the personality of the Supreme Lord. The universe, which emanates from Him, is another feature of the Lord. Therefore the Supreme Lord is the ultimate truth, and He is complete in greatness"
Yes, that's the first place I went. It's got a nasty abrahamic bias.SnakeLord said:In that case just go to dictionary.com
Sure... Quoting the dictionary always ends debates about the meanings of words.Problem solved, thread ended.
Yes, that's the first place I went. It's got a nasty abrahamic bias
Nothing sensible about a God and no sensible definition could come from someone who believes in a God? Can you please clarify, I don't see how the definition isn't sensible.the preacher said:theres nothing sensible about a god and no sensible definition could come from someone who believes in a god, however I willing to listen to your views, although they can only be totally subjective.
So I'm guessing your definition of "exists" is some type of physical, material substance, right? So in your opinion, things like time, vacuum energy, electromagnetic waves, etc...also "exists but doesn't exist"???the preacher said:hence why I said "it exists but does'nt exist".
Those 30 milliion gods are not really gods, they're devas, where as Krishna is equal to Narayana, smaller than the smallest (literally), the supersoul within all beings (even the demons). You make it seem as if it's similar to Zeus in Greek mythology. You seem to be trapped in Western mentality, of this is your God and this is my God.the preacher said:krishna is classed as a godhead.
krishna is but the pinnacle of over 30 million gods.
you cannot be serious, how can a subjective thing be taken seriously, if you changed the word god for the tooth fairy, would it still be sensible.VitalOne said:Nothing sensible about a God and no sensible definition could come from someone who believes in a God? Can you please clarify, I don't see how the definition isn't sensible.
no comparison, those were uneducated religious fanatics, the atheist has the utmost respect to life and the living.therefore could never deprive any body from there chance to live.VitalOne said:Why do you atheists think you're so superior to everyone else? Ironically, it's the same type of mentality that people who burned others for having views against the Bible...
no anything that can objectively effect one or all the senses.VitalOne said:So I'm guessing your definition of "exists" is some type of physical, material substance, right?
not so, these can be measured, and therefore effect one or all of the senses.VitalOne said:So in your opinion, things like time, vacuum energy, electromagnetic waves, etc...also "exists but doesn't exist"???
in your subjective opinion.VitalOne said:Those 30 milliion gods are not really gods, they're devas, where as Krishna is equal to Narayana, smaller than the smallest (literally), the supersoul within all beings (even the demons).
well it is, it's just as subjective.VitalOne said:You make it seem as if it's similar to Zeus in Greek mythology. You seem to be trapped in Western mentality, of this is your God and this is my God.