What do you pray for ?

Enmos said:
Even for more rapists and murderers ? :p
You need to be more specific lol
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well, it would be like a xmas wish list wouldn't it? If it worked, why not. I want perfect health for me and family, win the lottery, world peace, etc. I'd pray for a lot of good things and a lot of selfish things.
 
Orleander said:
well, it would be like a xmas wish list wouldn't it? If it worked, why not. I want perfect health for me and family, win the lottery, world peace, etc. I'd pray for a lot of good things and a lot of selfish things.
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Ok lol :p
 
Adstar said:
Why do you pray for that? Jesus has already secured forgiveness for you.
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Well?

According to the Bible:

Hebrews 10:26-27 (New King James Version)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

So, if you sin willfully as a Christian there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins for you. And perhaps a person just might come to the conclusion that they actually might need to ask or pray for forgiveness since they have none at that point in time and are condemned to hell once again.


Also according to the Bible:

1 John 1:9-10 (New King James Version)
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.

This verse must mean that if a Christian does not specifically ask or pray for the forgiveness of their sins then they are not forgiven. The implication of this scripture is plain and simple. Is this, His word, in you?


And again according to the Bible:

Mark 11:25-27 (New King James Version)
25 “And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses. 26 But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father in heaven forgive your trespasses.”

Here it is plainly stated, for all to see, that a Christian’s sins will not be forgiven by God if they do not forgive others for their sins.

I am guessing that you might be rejecting all of these scriptures simply because they directly conflict with your own personal beliefs.

Is that correct?


Here is another indicator of the same thing...

Luke 6:37-38 (New King James Version)
37 “Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38 Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

I have actually heard pastors condemn other people to hell for believing in these scriptures instead of their own instruction. What model human beings these people have become? God must be very proud of them, don't you think?

Orrr... Maybe not!
 
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I pray for the well-being of my family and friends. I pray that if something bad is going to happen to the people closest to me, it will happen to me instead.
 
Enmos,

You cannot tell people why, when and how to pray. You probably never been in a situation that warranted the appeal to a higher power. Is there a higher power? Some believe that life in and of itself is a miracle.
 
John99 said:
Enmos,

You cannot tell people why, when and how to pray. You probably never been in a situation that warranted the appeal to a higher power. Is there a higher power? Some believe that life in and of itself is a miracle.
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Huh? Where did i say that stuff ?
 
The implication was made, be honest. All i have to ask you is one question with two parts.

A: Have you ever prayed?

B: Do you still pray?
 
John99 said:
The implication was made, be honest. All i have to ask you is one question with two parts.

A: Have you ever prayed?

B: Do you still pray?
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I think you are reading something that isn't there. He was ASKING Not TELLING ..
 
John99 said:
The implication was made, be honest. All i have to ask you is one question with two parts.

A: Have you ever prayed?

B: Do you still pray?
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How did I make the implication :confused:
I'm sorry but your are being paranoid here..

A: No, i only faked it when i was a kid.
B: No.
 
Enmos said:
How did I make the implication :confused:
I'm sorry but your are being paranoid here..

A: No, i only faked it when i was a kid.
B: No.
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A: Me too.
B: So under no circumstances would you ask for a miracle to happen to offset a tragedy unfolding in your life?

Either way it is fine, just different ways the human mind works, i guess.
 
John99 said:
A: Me too.
B: So under no circumstances would you ask for a miracle to happen to offset a tragedy unfolding in your life?

Either way it is fine, just different ways the human mind works, i guess.
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No, i wouldn't.
Why did you think i was telling people how and when to pray ?
 
You're moving the goal post, John.

It's either prayer or it isn't. While prayer is an appeal to a perceived higher authority, not all appeals to perceived higher authorities are prayers.

The topic is prayer, which is an appeal to a specific higher authority, namely a supernatural deity. You cannot equate asking one's mother for a bedtime snack (also an appeal to a higher authority) with prayer.
 
Yes. Wishes are just that. "Wants" that you just put out there.

Prayers are specifically directed to God. Or whoever...

You can pray mentally though. I do it all the time. Or I would be thrown out of a lot of places...:D :D :D
 
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