In the context of Flying Saucers, or UFO's if you prefer, one could ascribe that particular means as being the Mothership from Zeta Reticuli, if one simply must. However, equally, it's actually no less difficult to park an artificial satelight in orbit above the Earth via means of conventional, dull, tired old 20th Century Rocket technology if one simply doesn't happen to have a Zeta Reticulan Mothership ready to hand...
You see, there is a very definite reason why your average UFO or Flying Saucer, presuming such are in fact real of course, actually has to be an engineless vehicle traveling under its own inertia...
Not simply because it's a nifty observation and perfectly obvious to boot, but actually because, when eye-witnesses have described the way in which UFO's can appear to alter course and heading, what they appear to be describing seems to be suggesting the impossible:
That UFO's apparently possess the ability to break the Laws of Physic's.
And the reason that would be important is because, in physically conforming to eye-witness description, such a vehicle as this really wouldn't be doing anything of the sort at all ...
Well Mister Frank Anonymous Marshall,
Have you ever even bothered to look at some footage of the space-shuttle re-entering the atmosphere? I guess not, cause if you had, you wouldn’t in your WILDEST dreams come up with an explanation of this sort of the WHOLE phenomenon of ufo’s.
“Gee, it flies: it must be a space shuttle entering the atmosphere!”
I’m very sorry but: have you no brains at all? You can’t even SEE things parked in LOW earth orbit by the naked eye, let alone see some clearly metallic object, with a spherical round body, or some other design (we earthlings drive a whole heap of car’s all with different design, so what was that point about? I’m supposing their design is very pragmatic, but >I could be wrong off course).
The only time you MIGHT see SOMETHING in low earth orbit is at night with the sun illuminating the satellite or ISS in question. Man! Every one of those damn ufo bufs should be working as a intelligence officer on the battlefield, they can easily replace our satellites: they have much better eyes by far!!!!
So I’m actually confirming my side of point: your point was NEVER ever even meant to be an objective response to my paradime, you just wanted to proliferate your own damn illusions, without even checking their validity on a scientific basis,….CGI simulations,…
CGI simulations MY
-sensored-!
Not theoretical physical principals, but real ones.
So have you read about those 21st century physics already? Be careful not to dismiss a working theory!
Now I fully realise that real world physics are a bore to you, that you have no interest in them and not the slightest intention of taking them on board and bothering to understand how they work. I get that.
oh, now mister ANOyedNIMUS, you will try to accuse me too of being the non technical-minded one, because I just set the record straight? I’m not hearing much from this thread lately? It’s very quietly inhere suddenly! Or you must still be reading that is,…
Give the actual science stuff a try one of these days duendy, you might surprise your self and actually come to realise you do actually understand quite a lot of it probably far better than you yourself actually believe...
Who are you to be patronizing others onto what they are supposed to belief when they actually had their first hand experience?
Who are you to believe that you know best what science is all about?
Who are you? Mr. Frank Anonymous Marshall??? You could easily have used the name John Smith, all the same,….
But yes, as you say. People tend to want to look for some sort of all governing, all encompassing grand theory linking everything to everything else and expecting it all to tie up neatly and make sense. trouble is, it's where a lot of the thinking tends to fall down - instead of looking closely at all the individual bits and examining them thoroughly, the eye tends to be on the Grand Scheme and so details tend to get missed.
And this is such an outright mis-un-der-stan-ding! Thing ARE connected in this universe man! Look at the Big picture if you will? Think about the theory for everything? The snare theory and all?
Regarding Zero Point Energy? No ones ever seen it. There are plenty of people who claim they've discovered it and have pointed to various contraptions of their making and declared it true. However, not a one of them, other than being prepared to switch the thing on and let it do its stuff, has ever been prepared to let anyone else have a poke around inside and see how it works.
You'll find the usual excuse to be that they are awaiting patent protection on their idea's to be finalised before being prepared to reveal to the scientific community how their devices work - which on the face of it sounds reasonable enough...
But then you find, 10, 15, 20 years later. Still no sign of their Zero Point Energy devices on the market and though securing patent protection is certainly neither cheap or quick, it doesn't take that long and after a while the excuse begins to wear rather thin...
Man! You should see the patent store immediately! I can guarantee you that your eyeballs will fall right out of their sockets!!! You wouldn’t believe all those rare and exotic patents that are out there!!!
Oh, I make it a point of never discussing entities on a first date... It's just vulgar, and slightly boorish.
First line on the first page reads in bold: This isn't about Aliens...
This is so goddamn typical: I start a thread and someone hijacks the shit out of it to proclaim their own little revolution, damn this thread isn’t about Alien no! this thread is about THE VIABILITY AND VALIDITY OF EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE for once and for all! Go start your own threads about your low earth orbits debris stuff like that damn it !!
And duendy: you don’t have to
Ta.......and tidly on pon ton..........& @@@@@@@@@@@@lllllllloooooooooooooo
copy-paste an entire msg without relaying any point, just to make shure Mr. Frank Anonimus Marshall’s post holds the last place in this thread!
No way Goszay!
I’m ruling this thead! It’s mine!
Perhaps if you get a few spare minutes you might want to give it the once over, it answers your questions and more besides...
No, it doesn’t.
Ufologists are forever declaring that science is incapable of explaining UFO phenomena - that simply isn't true, never has been. Science has always had plenty to say about the matter, its just generally science doesn't tell UFO believers exactly what it is they want to hear, so they ignore it.
And that is an outright lie and you know it! Science has been telling us exactly what we DO want to hear and it’s the debunkers like yourself that look the other way and go off and try to find OTHER explanations because it is YOU who are not satisfied by the explanations ‘conventional’ science delivers to the subject!
Now, I'm not a person who actually gives a flying crap about the subject. I never have been, and I plan on continuing to live a very long and blissfully happy life continuing in that exact same vein.
Well exuse me, but looks can be indeed deceiving,….looks like you care a whole lot to me,…mentioning all your reply’s and the effort it must have taken to build that website alone,…and why? BECAUSE YOU DO CARE. swindler!
PartII is still not applicable here, so I’m withholding it.
Greetz
Fukushi
Ps: don’t be offended, I’m not either. It’s nothing personal: the cursing is just to express my being upset by such stupidity: I might be stupid too sometimes,…but at least I know when I’m stretching it !!! WHA HA HA !
