Oh, the rituals they must endure!
SkinWalker said:The problem with this definition is it would ostensibly include the cubscouts, therefore it isn't real *or* objective. My definition isn't really "mine." It comes from philosopher Daniel C. Dennett and is, to date, the most useful and specific definition I've seen. Nearly every anthropology, sociology, psychology, etc. textbook offers one that's different if just slightly.
As do I, but I'm interested in what you find lacking about the definition of religion I've offered.
Why should I be expected to make no judgements of a culture? There are certainly actions and activities that are characteristic of cultures that are deserving of an opinion, wouldn't you agree? Female Genital Mutilation, for instance... doesn't this practice of certain Muslim cultures of mutilating the genitalia of pre-adolescent girls strike you as wrong? Regardless of any ethnocentric bias or ettic versus emic perspective, there's something humanly wrong with adults holding down a child and using a rusty razor blade to remove her clitorus.
Moreover, why should I be expected to have strong opinions about the politics of my fellow citizens but not their religions? Religion has positive aspects within a given society, but is it not also true that their religious belief can potentially have a deleterious effect on the society for which I'm a member?
Crunchy Cat said:It does more than that. It prevents congress from establishing a national religion and from preferring one religion over other religious or non-religious philosophies.
In the case of that public school (i.e. government) example, the action of preferring christianity was in violation of law.
TW Scott said:Actually that is what is meant by state religion.
Yes but they are support the atheism which is a religion as well. Now maybe I was not clear. The students wanted to put up the decorations. Not the school money, but student money. But we weren't even allowed to say "Merry Christmas"
TW Scott said:Actually that is what is meant by state religion.
TW Scott said:Yes but they are support the atheism which is a religion as well. Now maybe I was not clear. The students wanted to put up the decorations. Not the school money, but student money. But we weren't even allowed to say "Merry Christmas"
Sure.SkinWalker said:Skill wants us to think he's referenced some invisible posts.
** It turns out that there is nothing to support his claim that atheists proselytize more than theists.
over generalize?oxypunk101 said:Cool Skill, please do not over generalize about all people
Whatever you may think it sounds like, the point is to make sure 'it' is correct.Hapsburg said:This "Lucifer/Satan" character sounds more like the victim in this than anything else, really. It just sounds like this "Jesus/God" fella was acting like a dickhead, and was totally unappreciative towards Lucifer.
1. From Job.Adstar said:Where does it say that satan was thrown out of heaven for attempting to turn Job away from Jesus?
Is this what you believe the Bible states?
And saying things like this is supposed to make us think you're anything but a moron? If you'd just read mine and others posts a bit more carefully, you'd see that all we are asking for is a bit of substance to back up the claims of the religious. Lacking that, a simple admission that it's all just a fantasy you happen to enjoy. Simple, really.ggazoo said:superluminal's malicious rants are proof of God if I ever heard it.
Good novel? I read through that, and found the narrative horribly written. I am interested in the plot though, so I'll probably end up trgdging myself through the narrative just to get the story then gauge my eye balls out afterward.Gordon said:If you are interested in a good novel (fiction but fairly soundly biblically based) 'The Fall of Lucifer' by Wendy Alec
superluminal's malicious rants are proof of God if I ever heard it.
Duh. Isn't it obvious? It's because atheists are psychopathic superfanatics.TW Scott said:Look at the lawsuits filed by atheists against any religious decorations one or around holidays. In a predominately (like 80%) christian town we had no christmas decorations in our school for ten years becuase of one Atheist family. The other faiths did not have a problem with it at all, so why did that one family? What right of theirs were we violating.?
You're having fun with this, aren't you, cow skull?cool skill said:Duh. Isn't it obvious? It's because atheists are psychopathic superfanatics.
And it is a good think you atheists continue to provide more evidence to support my claim. It's supports my claim even more that you do not even notice you are doing it.superluminal said:And saying things like this is supposed to make us think you're anything but a moron? If you'd just read mine and others posts a bit more carefully, you'd see that all we are asking for is a bit of substance to back up the claims of the religious. Lacking that, a simple admission that it's all just a fantasy you happen to enjoy. Simple, really.
It's because atheists are psychopathic superfanatics.
Wait, I'm going to try Mr. Skills approach:cool skill said:And it is a good think you atheists continue to provide more evidence to support my claim. It's supports my claim even more that you do not even notice you are doing it.
More support for Cool Skill's assetion here:
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