Victor Espinoza's: Thread of Intrigue

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VIDEO OF SPACESHIP FROM VICTOR​

[video=youtube;NUxQ6_b3l-Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUxQ6_b3l-Y&hd=1[/video]

Very affectionately,
Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez
10 February 2014
 
Victor, I watched the video. I haven't the slightest idea what that was suppose to be.
 
origin said:
Victor, I watched the video. I haven't the slightest idea what that was suppose to be.
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SPACESHIP FROM VICTOR​

I have an idea to invent a spaceship with a turbine or propeller plane inside a cylinder seal with air inside. The idea is to use air to push with an electric turbine aircraft contrary to normal, i.e. that you eject air forward and not backward.

With an action and a reaction It can be reached to the Moon, but with reaction and action can not reach to the planet Mars.

It is what I'm trying to say.

There must be a way to get to Mars and others without Newton.

Performs an experiment very easy to make on a ventilator. Placing on the metal guard of the blade a round or square top. And you will notice that the lid diverts air on all sides. This air is where I say that we must take to create movement, because it has no opposite force.

It is proven that the air will go forward and force of action was sideways, therefore the air if pushed on my experiment.


Propulsion system:

1.) Two (2) turbine electrical that compressed air. Of color Golden.

2.) Two (2) tubes which directed the air to a metal wall. It looks like an "L".

3.-) The force of the air will boost the spaceship from Victor.

4.-) The force of reaction opposite , will be sideways.

5.-) The air also will rotate an propeller, which belongs to a shaft of a alternator generator of energy,


[video=youtube;NUxQ6_b3l-Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUxQ6_b3l-Y&hd=1[/video]


Very affectionately,
Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez
March 10, 2014
 
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Victor are you thinking that the altenator generator(5) will supply electricity to run the electrical turbine(1)?
 
Balerion, be nice - Victor is earnest in his desire to learn and improve upon his ideas. That alone should be cause enough for us to grant him common courtesy; the fact that he is willing to revisit his ideas when mistakes are pointed out and try to better them is exemplary. Are there issues with it? Yes, of course. But, ya know, last I checked the first few heavier-than-air flying machines didn't do too hot either :p
 
victorespinoza said:
Yes, to a battery-
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That is what I thought. That cannot work due to the second law of thermodynamics. You need to have another independent power source.

For example you cannot have an electric car that has generators hooked up to the wheels and use that to supply power to the electric engine and run forever.
 
Indeed - due to losses due to resistance and friction, you will ultimately run out of power. You could, however, use solar panels to collect energy, and use the turbine as a form of "waste collection" to regain some of your losses
 
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That is what I thought. That cannot work due to the second law of thermodynamics. You need to have another independent power source.

For example you cannot have an electric car that has generators hooked up to the wheels and use that to supply power to the electric engine and run forever.
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But a car has an alternator. And it has an eternal battery.
 
There is a big difference though, Victor.

In a car, the Battery is really only used for the initial startup - once the internal combustion engine is running, it powers the alternator which, in turn, recharges the battery and provides power to the rest of the car (such as headlights, stereo, etc).

If you tried doing such a thing with an Electric car... well, they have actually. It's called Regenerative Braking. The electric engine, when applying the brakes, acts as a generator, using the cars momentum to spin and generate current. This helps to improve the range of the car... but only slightly.

The problem is, an electric generator and an electric engine both suffer from friction and electrical resistance. Thus, even if you had an electric engine that used 25 watts at 1 amp spinning an electric generator that at max could create 30 watts at 1 amp, both feeding from/into a battery, eventually, due to resistance, the battery will deplete, the engine will stop turning, and the generator will stop generating power.
 
Kittamaru said:
Balerion, be nice - Victor is earnest in his desire to learn and improve upon his ideas. That alone should be cause enough for us to grant him common courtesy; the fact that he is willing to revisit his ideas when mistakes are pointed out and try to better them is exemplary. Are there issues with it? Yes, of course. But, ya know, last I checked the first few heavier-than-air flying machines didn't do too hot either :p
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I was just kidding. Calm down.
 
Kittamaru said:
There is a big difference though, Victor.

In a car, the Battery is really only used for the initial startup - once the internal combustion engine is running, it powers the alternator which, in turn, recharges the battery and provides power to the rest of the car (such as headlights, stereo, etc).

If you tried doing such a thing with an Electric car... well, they have actually. It's called Regenerative Braking. The electric engine, when applying the brakes, acts as a generator, using the cars momentum to spin and generate current. This helps to improve the range of the car... but only slightly.

The problem is, an electric generator and an electric engine both suffer from friction and electrical resistance. Thus, even if you had an electric engine that used 25 watts at 1 amp spinning an electric generator that at max could create 30 watts at 1 amp, both feeding from/into a battery, eventually, due to resistance, the battery will deplete, the engine will stop turning, and the generator will stop generating power.
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And the alternator from a generator of energy of gasoline: 110 Volt or more.
 
victorespinoza said:
And the alternator from a generator of energy of gasoline: 110 Volt or more.
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That is correct the power comes from the gasoline which is operating the internal combustion engine. When you run out of gas you are done.
 
Kittamaru said:
There is a big difference though, Victor.

In a car, the Battery is really only used for the initial startup - once the internal combustion engine is running, it powers the alternator which, in turn, recharges the battery and provides power to the rest of the car (such as headlights, stereo, etc).

If you tried doing such a thing with an Electric car... well, they have actually. It's called Regenerative Braking. The electric engine, when applying the brakes, acts as a generator, using the cars momentum to spin and generate current. This helps to improve the range of the car... but only slightly.

The problem is, an electric generator and an electric engine both suffer from friction and electrical resistance. Thus, even if you had an electric engine that used 25 watts at 1 amp spinning an electric generator that at max could create 30 watts at 1 amp, both feeding from/into a battery, eventually, due to resistance, the battery will deplete, the engine will stop turning, and the generator will stop generating power.
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And the alternator from a generator of energy of gasoline: 110 Volt or more.

origin said:
That is correct the power comes from the gasoline which is operating the internal combustion engine. When you run out of gas you are done.
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I'm talking about placing a battery. As in a car.
 
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