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My name is Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez, I am 40 years old, educated at the University Institute of technology Isaac Newton, I'm TSU in computer science. I live in Venezuela, Carabobo State, in the city of Valencia, a half block from the Plaza Candelaria.
I have an idea to invent a spaceship with a turbine or propeller plane inside a cylinder seal with air inside. The idea is to use air to push with an electric turbine aircraft contrary to normal, i.e. that you eject air forward and not backward.
Propulsion system:
1.) Two (2) turbine electrical that compressed air. Of color Golden.
2.) Two (2) tubes which directed the air to a metal wall. Of color Blue.
3.-) The force of the air will boost the spaceship from Victor.
4.-) The force of reaction opposite , will be sideways.
Very affectionately,
Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez
February 19, 2014
SPACESHIP FROM VICTOR
My name is Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez, I am 40 years old, educated at the University Institute of technology Isaac Newton, I'm TSU in computer science. I live in Venezuela, Carabobo State, in the city of Valencia, a half block from the Plaza Candelaria.
I have an idea to invent a spaceship with a turbine or propeller plane inside a cylinder seal with air inside. The idea is to use air to push with an electric turbine aircraft contrary to normal, i.e. that you eject air forward and not backward.
Propulsion system:
1.) Two (2) turbine electrical that compressed air. Of color Golden.
2.) Two (2) tubes which directed the air to a metal wall. Of color Blue.
3.-) The force of the air will boost the spaceship from Victor.
4.-) The force of reaction opposite , will be sideways.
Very affectionately,
Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez
February 19, 2014
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SPACESHIP FROM VICTOR
My name is Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez, I am 40 years old, educated at the University Institute of technology Isaac Newton, I'm TSU in computer science. I live in Venezuela, Carabobo State, in the city of Valencia, a half block from the Plaza Candelaria.
I have an idea to invent a spaceship with a turbine or propeller plane inside a cylinder seal with air inside. The idea is to use air to push with an electric turbine aircraft contrary to normal, i.e. that you eject air forward and not backward.
Propulsion system:
1.) Two (2) turbine electrical that compressed air. Of color Golden.
2.) Two (2) tubes which directed the air to a metal wall. Of color Blue.
3.-) The force of the air will boost the spaceship from Victor.
4.-) The force of reaction opposite , will be sideways.
Very affectionately,
Victor Elias Espinoza Guedez
February 19, 2014
Interesting idea there, but a few concerns:
How much airflow could that generate? The only thrust would be the impact of the air hitting the front of the enclosure - you would need high speed and a vast quantity of motion for that to even begin to shift the vessel at all - it would certainly be a very slow acceleration, as well as useless near any source of gravity... almost wonder if a heavy liquid would work better?
The other issue would be powering such a system - I would presume solar or nuclear would be the basis of the electrical generation?
There is a small part of me saying that this still violates some principle idea of momentum, but it isn't coming to mind what exactly it would be...
Overall though Victor, a nice improvement on the previous designs - this one has merit in logic and forward thinking, even if the final result would likely be less than spectacular only due to quantity of thrust.
One thing to consider - when trying to power a ship thru space, you must consider your force of thrust in Newtons against the force of mass in Newtons (power/weight ratio) to ensure your engine can in fact propel a vehicle of any substantial weight at all. Basically, think of it like trying to use a motorcycle to pull a fully loaded 18 wheeler - on a perfectly flat surface, the bike motor could probably, slowly, ever so slowly, start to move the trailer. However, you come to the smallest of inclines, and it just isn't going to happen.
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THE FORCE OF AN AIRCRAFT (TURBINE)
[video=youtube;qDjxkxdhUds]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDjxkxdhUds&hd=1[/video]
The liquid will freeze up.
Not necessarily - after all, we do have liquid water on the Space Station as it is rather important for people to live there
As for the video you show - do remember Victor - that is a jet-fuel powered turbine - your idea would be dependent on an electrical turbine, much like an air compressor. A jet turbine has the potential to be many, many times more powerful due to the incredible forces of heat and expansion involved... however, carting that much jet fuel to space would be impractical, not to mention you would need to carry liquid oxygen to burn with it.
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Not necessarily - after all, we do have liquid water on the Space Station as it is rather important for people to live there
As for the video you show - do remember Victor - that is a jet-fuel powered turbine - your idea would be dependent on an electrical turbine, much like an air compressor. A jet turbine has the potential to be many, many times more powerful due to the incredible forces of heat and expansion involved... however, carting that much jet fuel to space would be impractical, not to mention you would need to carry liquid oxygen to burn with it.
It is a good idea.
Thing is, carting that kind of weight around would be impractical. You'd have to build and launch it entirely in space... which, honestly, I dont' know why we dont' do that to begin with, since then you avoid the whole "break away from Earths gravity" thing but meh...
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The liquid oxygen may explode.
For that you will need a space elevator, maybe possible in 10 years?
As for the jet turbine and electric turbine thing, if it's source of power can be derived from renewable sources like solar and thermoelectrics in a high yield, then I suspect the fuel issue can be dealt with easily, maybe even working in space
As for the fuel, maybe liquid hydrogen or a solid material that can store hydrogen. I rmb that 2 years ago I learnt form wikipedia that hydrogen has a very high specific impulse (change in momentum per unit mass) so maybe that can help reduce the amount of fuel need to carry?
Or maybe modify the shape of the enclosure a bit which might help in guiding the air so that it is more efficient to generate the propulsion hence a higher specific impulse?
(P.S. Please correct me if you see any errors, as this is not my field of speciality and I make the above comments based on some physics I learnt in my 1st year, which is most like not the full picture)
P.S. This thread have since becoming sensible enough that I can finally give a reply on it, however since I am not an engineer nor a computer scientist, I cannot give much sensible comments on it
Will see how this goes
Victor - yeah, liquid oxygen has the potential to explode, but it is a necessary item in space. Unless you can provide a hydroponics pod big enough to produce enough O2 and scrub the CO2 from the atmosphere for the astronauts.
As for your post Secret - you could do it without a space elevator, shipping components and raw materials up (similar to how the iSS was built) but it'd be a massive pain in the arse.
As for your post Secret - you could do it without a space elevator, shipping components and raw materials up (similar to how the iSS was built) but it'd be a massive pain in the arse.
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Do experiments with plants in space, dan result to produce oxygen?
Well, in the same atmosphere as the people living there, yes. Obviously you couldn't just plant trees on the moon and expect to have an atmosphere But having a large section of, say, the international space station dedicated to a hydroponics farm SHOULD provide a good amount of the required O2 for human life, as well as cleansing CO2 from the air.
But having a large section of, say, the international space station dedicated to a hydroponics farm SHOULD provide a good amount of the required O2 for human life, as well as cleansing CO2 from the air.
Well, in the same atmosphere as the people living there, yes. Obviously you couldn't just plant trees on the moon and expect to have an atmosphere
It should be considered there was attempts for a number of "Biodome" exercises (closed systems) to try to identify the volume of flora that would be required to sustain a set number of people. The result was they ended up having to top up the supply or "crack the door open".
*nods* it would be an incredibly tenuous balance, between nitrogen fixation, nutrient replenation, and CO2/O2 production.
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The temperature of the light must be equal to the temperature of the Sun's light.
Well, it wouldn't have to be exact, but close. The bigger thing would be providing the correct amount of UV/other spectrum radiation (since if memory servers photosynthesis works on more than just the visible light spectrum)
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So the water can evaporate and moving on the plant sown. It should be heated with light, at a temperature of the Sun's light.
What's happening Victor?
I hope you haven't run out of ideas.
I hope you haven't run out of ideas.
Ironically the last biosphere project had oxygen problems not because they got the balance wrong in the biological systems, but because concrete absorbs carbon dioxide as it ages, thus all the exposed concrete trapped needed oxygen by "taking it out of the cycle." A good lesson on how interrelated everything in such a system is.
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