To atheists: did you always lack faith in God?
- Thread starter S.A.M.
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You guys in some sort of club or something? :bugeye:
Oh. Ok then...
Which makes good sense. The likelyhood of us being the pinnacle of lifeforms is pretty slim. But how does this bear on the existence of a mystical, supernatural creator of the cosmos?
I'm so amazed at your knowledge of my family but you're incorrect.
I'm the only person here, however, so I only have to provide for myself.
Time exists in our universe, therefore for it to be infinite is illogical. However anything outside our universe isn't necessarily affected by "time"
All true societies are "one way" , and religion helps to guide which way that is exactly
No such thing as a "tolerant society". There's tolerant nations and tolerant regions but no tolerant society.
Yes
That would be incorrect because santa clause and the easter bunny have absolutely no basis whatsoever, where as a "god" does. Anything with an actual basis shouldn't be dismissed. If the concept of god had no basis, why has it come up in every civilization? Whereas santa clause and the tooth fairy haven't because they are pure imaginings, they have no initial logic or observation behind them. The concept of a god does, which is the observation of intelligence and the influence of intelligence on complexity.
Actually she's incorrect. I have been here a long time and am a citizen now but I'm not second gen.
superluminal, you just made a brilliant point:
One thing you're missing is what "supernatural" is. Supernatural would just not be of this nature. And higher intelligence can exist, certainly, and probably does.
A god would be nothing more than an influential higher intelligence. Even if the Christian God existed, he is still just an advanced being
Also what is "mystical"; even magick requires an underlying mechanic, and so "magick" is nothing more than just that.
This would be wholly incorrect. I'm far too tired now to provide the numerous examples of mythical entities that appear in common throughout history, across civilizations, that aren't gods, but have better logic and observation behind them.
Your strong statements regarding the relative credibility of "god" seem to me to be self reinforcing. Nothing more.
Of course gods have a good underlying basis:
Intelligence can influence
Intelligence can influence complexity
We are complex
[Everything either is "intelligent" or has no "intelligence"]
Therefore, we either were created or were not
We are complex
We might have been created
[Religion]
We must have been created
Intelligence can influence
Intelligence can influence complexity
We are complex
[Everything either is "intelligent" or has no "intelligence"]
Therefore, we either were created or were not
We are complex
We might have been created
[Religion]
We must have been created
superluminal, you just made a brilliant point:
Gracias!
Then we're talking about two very different conceptions of god. The common perception of god as an unknowable, unfathomable entity "beyond nature". Not just some super-advanced lifeform.
I'm talking about the latter, but that latter could also be a former. That super advanced life form could be something we just don't understand, so naturally we attribute "magic" and "mysticism" to it. A god would just be an influential intelligent being.
Just to be sure, are you 100% atheist?
Sam, I am an atheist, and I know what I think.
Seems you want to attach a load of baggage to the term, because you cannot debate honestly. Keep at it though, you aren't improving your reputation here.
Just to be sure, are you 100% atheist?
I don't understand why you find this amusing.
Just to be sure, are you 100% atheist?
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