Theist tries to tell atheists what they believe

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Did you mean to quote me?

There was one wonky post. Tried to clean it up.

 

[Trek]

Rather than addressing my arguments, you are addressing your concept of atheism. That's a classic straw man.

Not to mention that you have already established that you don't what atheism is. If I were a lesser man I might start calling you a liar (if that were somehow logical).

Focus. Atheism is a lack of/without belief in a God, or gods. Stop trying to make things more complex than they really are.
You’re not a lesser man, you’re just without belief.

It simply means I lack sufficient evidence to believe he is real.

That wasn’t the question…
“If I don’t give you satisfactory evidence does it mean God is not real?”

It is logically impossible to prove a negative, so it would be folly for me to assert God does not exist.

You get around that by asking dishonest questions. We theists can see you coming a mile off because you’ve been using the same points forever. Just like folks you make stupid threads like these, then proceed to churn out the same old bs.
It’s obvious you’re only validating your denial of God, the reason for your atheism.

Best I can do is relegate him to the same place as unicorns:

Couldn’t have said it better myself! Of course that is the best you can do. Because you are in denial of God.

"Not sayin' they don't exist, just sayin' I'll believe it when see it."

Are you saying you’ll believe God exists when you see him? lol!!

This is how all humans work, including you. You lack sufficient evidence of garden faeries, therefore you are not convinced they are real. If I can't produce evidence that satisfies you, you are right to continue to be skeptical that they exist.

Since when do you know how ALL HUMANS WORK?
Why talk about garden fairies if not to belittle God. Told you are in denial.

I am not prepared to say there is "no such thing" as unicorns.

Why do you keep comparing Unicorns to God?
To justify your denial maybe?

My stance is, and always has been "I'll accept it when I see it."

And there’s your atheism kicking in.
You don’t have to believe in God until you see him. If I don’t see him then he is not real.
If he is not real then my denial is justified.

I still do not find any logic in this.

I don’t believe you.
You will say anything to justify your stance.

 

[Trek]

You do, but you won't. You have no evidence for any god or gods. Repeat that to yourself when you start to make unprovable claims.

Thanks Gawd old mate.

 

[Trek]

Did you mean to quote me?

Yes he did..
He just doesn’t know it

 

[Trek]

There was one wonky post. Tried to clean it up.

Don’t worry..
The truth came out.

 

[DaveC426913]

It’s obvious you’re only validating your denial of God, the reason for your atheism.

Despite all your deflections, the onus remains on you to produce evidence of the thing you claim exists.

Show us any reason to conclude your god exists anywhere but in your head.

You still can't do that, can you?

After all these years, Jan is still stuck at square one.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Denial of unreality is the sound tactic.

 

[Trek]

Despite all your deflections, the onus remains on you to produce evidence of the thing you claim exists.

That’s not how it works atheist.
Go and learn something about God, then come back and we’ll chat.

Show us any reason to conclude your god exists anywhere but in your head.

Show us the excuse there is no evidence for God is anywhere but in your head.

You still can't do that, can you?

You’re right atheist.. I can’t
Never said I could, neither have I attempted to.

After all these years, Jan is still stuck at square one.

You think I’m Jan
The reality is, you’re stuck at square one, because you have to defend you’re atheism.

You’re so deranged you can’t even refer to God without attempting to belittle him.

 

[DaveC426913]

Show us any reason to conclude your god exists anywhere but in your head.
You still can't do that, can you?

You’re right atheist.. I can’t
Never said I could, neither have I attempted to.

Thank you for your honesty. That is a refreshing change.

So we are in full agreement.
We both agree that god is inside your head.
We both agree that neither of us has any evidence to show he exists outside your head.

We have made some major progress here today people. Pats on the back all around.

 

[davewhite04]

Thank you for your honesty. That is a refreshing change.

So we are in full agreement.
We both agree that god is inside your head.
We both agree that neither of us has any evidence to show he exists outside your head.

We have made some major progress here today people. Pats on the back all around.

Do you actually think repeating the same old song sheet is original?

You are incapable of discussing philosophy or religion, you just repeat "Give me objective evidence(as you don't attempt to philosophise the potential of subjective experience. It's just "god doesn't exist".

 

[DaveC426913]

You are incapable of discussing philosophy or religion,

But we're not discussing philosophy or religion here. If we were, that would be a very different issue.

Instead, Trek has been insisting that God objectively exists - not just for those who believe he does - but for everyone in the world.

That is the opposite of a philosophical discussion. That's is an attempt to strong-arm subjective beliefs into objective fact. And it is that that is being challenged.

If y'all want to talk about your personal, subjective experiences of god, knock yourselves out.

It's just "god doesn't exist".

I have never said god doesn't exist. You would do well to get your facts straight.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

That’s not how it works atheist.
Go and learn something about God, then come back and we’ll chat.

It's a figment of your imagination. You've just learned something. You won't accept that. Which is totally expected.

 

[davewhite04]

But we're not discussing philosophy or religion here. If we were, that would be a very different issue.

Instead, Trek has been insisting that God objectively exists - not just for those who believe he does - but for everyone in the world.

That is the opposite of a philosophical discussion. That's is an attempt to strong-arm subjective beliefs into objective fact. And it is that that is being challenged.

If y'all want to talk about your personal, subjective experiences of god, knock yourselves out.


I have never said god doesn't exist. You would do well to get your facts straight.

This whole thread should be approached with inquiring minds not made up ones.

Are you an agnostic?

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

When we're talking about beings classed with fairies and elves it's hard to be "balanced". The idea of gods, angels, demons, and the ilk has a high giggle factor.

 

[billvon]

This whole thread should be approached with inquiring minds not made up ones.

Exactly. If you come here with the attitude "I know God exists, I am right, if you disagree you're a moron" it won't go well for you.

 

[DaveC426913]

This whole thread should be approached with inquiring minds not made up ones.

Agree completely

It is Trek's mind who is made up. Read every time he has asserted the knows reality. He is incapable of an mind open to any possibility but his own.

The whole point of being skeptical is that we are open to possibilities. I am open to God's existence, just show me some evidence.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Gods, fairies, elves, Sauron, Gandalf, yeah, open minds.

 

[Trek]

It is Trek's mind who is made up. Read every time he has asserted the knows reality.

That’s an interesting delusional claim.
Care to give examples to back it up?

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Assert some of that "knows reality", please. Haven't seen that before.

 

[Trek]

I am open to God's existence, just show me some evidence.

No you’re not.
Ten evidence you seek is on your own concoction of what you set God to be.
It is completely circular.
That’s why I call you and other atheists liars