A reminder of past events in the matter of
Magical Realist...
Let's cast our minds back to May 2023. That was when MR first brought up the topic of Kirkpatrick's testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee. Here's my post, from back then:
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“What we have done is reduce the most typically reported UAP characteristics to these fields, mostly around 1 to 4 meters wide,” said Sean M. Kirkpatrick, director of AARO, who appeared in front of a subcommittee of the Senate Armed Services Committee, describing how UAPs mostly appear. “Silver. Translucent. Metallic. 10,000 to 30,000 feet [in the air]
with apparent velocities from the stationary to mach to no thermal exhausts usually detected.”---
https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kx...drone-spotted-metallic-orb-ufo-in-middle-east
This is a summary of "the most typically
reported UAP characteristics".
It is not a summary of "the most typically
confirmed UAP characteristics".
No...No confabulation of multiple incidents. It's a general description of the metallic sphere uap as seen in many accounts and photos and videos. And it's solid confirmation of what many eyewitnesses have claimed to see. Simple as that.
Accounts or reports of a thing are not solid confirmation of the thing. Simple as that.
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Yazata, at that time, even posted a summary slide from Kirkpatrick's briefing. See
this post.
The slide is titled "UAP
reporting trends" [my emphasis]. There is a column with the heading "Typically-
reported UAP characteristics". Interestingly, the slide does not list "metallic" under the appearance characteristics. It lists "white, silver, translucent". I note that, in fact, only
one of these three reported 'typical' statistics would typically fit the description 'metallic'.
The important point - which of course I drew to MR's attention back in May 2023 - was that these are all clearly descriptions of what the AARO saw
in reports of UAPs. They
explicitly reference
reports in multiple places. They
never refer to confirmed characteristics of actual objects. How could they possibly do that, anyway?
All of these things were
unidentified by Kirkpatrick and the AARO.
Of course, Magical Realist continued to play the village idiot. He experimented with how to mince words. He also started to tell lies. He claimed that "The Pentagon anomaly committee
has since confirmed the observed existence of metallic spheres flying in the sky in ways that defy conventional craft or balloons." (see, for instance,
this post, where I pulled MR up on this point).
Note the weasel words carefully. MR doesn't write that the committee "confirmed the existence of" the spheres. No, he is careful to maintain the plausible deniability that the troll always aims for. So he writes that what was confirmed was the "observed existence". What does that mean? Does he mean that the only thing that was confirmed was that somebody reported observing something they couldn't identify? Or does he seek to imply that the Pentagon confirmed that there are actually metallic flying spheres that can do Mach 2? The troll has refused ever to clarify this. Each time he is asked, he deflects. Why? Because he is fully aware that neither the Pentagon, the AARO, nor anybody else investigating this stuff on behalf of the US government or military has
ever confirmed that they have found
a single example of a real-world Mach 2 flying metallic sphere.
Interestingly, something the AARO
has confirmed is that it has confirmed that at least
some of these reported so-called "metallic spheres" were, in fact, later positively identified as conventional aircraft. This is a fact that, in more recent times, even Magical Realist has conceded. But he continues to assert, without any evidence, that some of the remaining unresolved reports constitute proof of extraterrestrial technology or something equivalently "extraordinary".
In my
post #9113, back in July 2023, I pointed out (
again) the following to Magical Realist:
The slide you refer to was a summary of the most often reported characteristics of UAP sightings. The "traits" listed on the slide refer to commonly-reported traits of UAPs in general.
This does not mean that every reported UAP has all these traits, or even most of them. It does not imply that all reported UAPs are spheres, or that all of them are 1-4 metres across, etc.
This slide is not about any individual report. It is collation of the most common kinds of things that are reported.
Nobody - not Kirkpatrick or anybody else, except you - is saying that most UAPs are 1-4 metre-diameter metallic spheres, or anything like that. That would imply that these unidentified objects have been identified. But this presentation was about the reported characteristics of a range of unidentified phenomena.
In the same post, I suggested that Magical Realist might consider being truthful about what Kirkpatrick said and about what the AARO found.
Since then, what has the troll done? The troll has continued to lie and to troll. The troll, as trolls do, has ignored previous corrections of his apparent errors and stupidities, only to re-appear time and again making the same false claims.
Back in July 2023, I walked
Yazata through some of MR's lies and evasions on this matter, in depth. Interested readers can review my post
#9120. Yazata did not acknowledge any of that, of course, which is consistent with an increasing pattern of intellectual dishonesty on this topic that we're seeing more and more of from him, of late. Witness his refusal to engage with any of my recent challenges to his position on the topic of the military UAP reports, and his refusal to engage with other skeptics such as DaveC. Yazata, of course, has pushing his own Big Lie for a while. But that's a story for a different post.
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