The Square Circle
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I don't see how, One Raven. It's numbers equate to everything about the planet, including Christianity. How does it not belong here?
I agree that something like that sounds like a stretch, but is it really? The numbers are there; hence so is the proof!
The theists on this board are guilty of brushing away the evidence as they see fit just to keep their faith from being shaken. That is what we, as reasonable people, cannnot stand about the religious. But if we just say "Bah! No F'N way!" about this, arent' we doing the same thing?
Just because something seems so incredible that it cannot be true, the evidence is there..the facts are there. The radius of the indentations of the Great Pyramid is the radius of the planet. The Jewish sacred inches counted out in the pyramids equates to dates in the Bible. The base of the pyramid equates to the exact length (accurate up to five digits) of our solar year.
It seems like the Great Pyramid may be the answer to so many of questions (and it already has, such as being a key component in Newton's theory of gravity) and deserves to be seriously discussed.
JD
I agree that something like that sounds like a stretch, but is it really? The numbers are there; hence so is the proof!
The theists on this board are guilty of brushing away the evidence as they see fit just to keep their faith from being shaken. That is what we, as reasonable people, cannnot stand about the religious. But if we just say "Bah! No F'N way!" about this, arent' we doing the same thing?
Just because something seems so incredible that it cannot be true, the evidence is there..the facts are there. The radius of the indentations of the Great Pyramid is the radius of the planet. The Jewish sacred inches counted out in the pyramids equates to dates in the Bible. The base of the pyramid equates to the exact length (accurate up to five digits) of our solar year.
It seems like the Great Pyramid may be the answer to so many of questions (and it already has, such as being a key component in Newton's theory of gravity) and deserves to be seriously discussed.
JD
What is so unbelievable about the Ancient Egyptians understanding the concept of pi?
Why do people think they could not have had any math or engineering skills?
Why is it so hard to believe that they would know the largest land mass and where the longest spans of that land would intersect?
The Phonecians (who many believe existed before the Egyptians) were very accompished sea fareres who traveled the world (and are believed to have spent time in Ancient Egypt).
Historians can't even agree on whether or not Jesus even existed, never mind when he was born.
No one knows for sure when Moses was supposedly walking the earth.
As for the contrived coincidences with the numbers...
It is easy to look into the past and find "prophecies".
Look at Nostradamus' (sp?) quattranes.
Look at all those people that list dozens of coincidences between JFK and Lincoln.
Look at all those nuts that show the countless number coincidences that can be applied to the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
It is pretty easy to draw the numeric (and otherwise) coincidences out after the fact.
Let's look at the life of the great one_raven and the magic number 9...
He was born on September 18, 1971.
That is 9/18/1971.
9*2=18.
Coincidence?
Let's look further...
1971...
1+9+7+1=18 *gasp*
eeire, huh?...
And what is 1*9*7*1?
63.
6+3=9!!
His birthday shows he was born under the sign of Virgo on the 18th day of the 9th month. His birthdate and sign is a prophecy that he would lose his virginity at age 18.
Needless to say, it was correct.
9/18/1971...
what is 9*18?
162
1+6+2=9
Coincidence?
At the time he wrote this he was 31 years old.
His phone number when he was 9 years old was:
472-6138
What happens when you add4+7+2+6+1+3+8?
You get 31!!
OH MY GOD!!
This year, he turns 32.
on 9/18/2003
What is 9+18+2+0+0+3?
You guessed it, 32.
When you step in the front door of his home, directly in front of you is a staircase.
It is 11 steps to the Master Bedrrom Chamber.
What, I ask you is 9+11?
You guess it, 18!!
Let's go further with the 9 and the 11 (a PRIME NUMBER, of course).
The great one-raven worked in the World Trade Center until April, 2001, which, of course, was destroyed on 9/11/2001.
9+11, of course, is 18. Divide that by 2 (he worked in Tower number 2) and we are back to 9.
Coincidence, or prophecy?
Did he know that the World Trade Center was going to be destroyed?
The world may never know.
Why do people think they could not have had any math or engineering skills?
Why is it so hard to believe that they would know the largest land mass and where the longest spans of that land would intersect?
The Phonecians (who many believe existed before the Egyptians) were very accompished sea fareres who traveled the world (and are believed to have spent time in Ancient Egypt).
Historians can't even agree on whether or not Jesus even existed, never mind when he was born.
No one knows for sure when Moses was supposedly walking the earth.
As for the contrived coincidences with the numbers...
It is easy to look into the past and find "prophecies".
Look at Nostradamus' (sp?) quattranes.
Look at all those people that list dozens of coincidences between JFK and Lincoln.
Look at all those nuts that show the countless number coincidences that can be applied to the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
It is pretty easy to draw the numeric (and otherwise) coincidences out after the fact.
Let's look at the life of the great one_raven and the magic number 9...
He was born on September 18, 1971.
That is 9/18/1971.
9*2=18.
Coincidence?
Let's look further...
1971...
1+9+7+1=18 *gasp*
eeire, huh?...
And what is 1*9*7*1?
63.
6+3=9!!
His birthday shows he was born under the sign of Virgo on the 18th day of the 9th month. His birthdate and sign is a prophecy that he would lose his virginity at age 18.
Needless to say, it was correct.
9/18/1971...
what is 9*18?
162
1+6+2=9
Coincidence?
At the time he wrote this he was 31 years old.
His phone number when he was 9 years old was:
472-6138
What happens when you add4+7+2+6+1+3+8?
You get 31!!
OH MY GOD!!
This year, he turns 32.
on 9/18/2003
What is 9+18+2+0+0+3?
You guessed it, 32.
When you step in the front door of his home, directly in front of you is a staircase.
It is 11 steps to the Master Bedrrom Chamber.
What, I ask you is 9+11?
You guess it, 18!!
Let's go further with the 9 and the 11 (a PRIME NUMBER, of course).
The great one-raven worked in the World Trade Center until April, 2001, which, of course, was destroyed on 9/11/2001.
9+11, of course, is 18. Divide that by 2 (he worked in Tower number 2) and we are back to 9.
Coincidence, or prophecy?
Did he know that the World Trade Center was going to be destroyed?
The world may never know.
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If you take the measurements, date of construction, architect's name, date of birth and office address (don;t forget to search for his dog's name too, that might help), nuber of steps and any other irrelevant information you can find about The Empire State Building, I am positive with a little imagination and ingenuity (and of course knowledge of past events) you could come up with a plethora of coincidences.
Especially if you mix math operations randomly, mix units of measure and convert words, dates and such to numbers in convenient irrational ways to meet your needs.
It could actually be fun.
I can give you a head start...
(you don't have to use all the data, of course.
Just pick and choose whatever is convenient for you.)
Here:
Especially if you mix math operations randomly, mix units of measure and convert words, dates and such to numbers in convenient irrational ways to meet your needs.
It could actually be fun.
I can give you a head start...
(you don't have to use all the data, of course.
Just pick and choose whatever is convenient for you.)
Here:
Trivia source
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=SputniK-CL=
Registered Senior Member
JDawg,
I totally agree with you. This is very interesting and should be discussed much more. We should be totally objective. This is what makes us scientists.
But I also agree with one_raven though I think he should try attacking the evidence at hand rather than showing what is possible. While I am no expert, the info given by Blonde Cupid seems sound.
This is all very wonderful, although, except for the prophecy of Christ part, there is no reason to believe the Egyptians werent just very skilled and full of knowledge about the world they lived in. This is to the glory of the human race, I would think.
I totally agree with you. This is very interesting and should be discussed much more. We should be totally objective. This is what makes us scientists.
But I also agree with one_raven though I think he should try attacking the evidence at hand rather than showing what is possible. While I am no expert, the info given by Blonde Cupid seems sound.
This is all very wonderful, although, except for the prophecy of Christ part, there is no reason to believe the Egyptians werent just very skilled and full of knowledge about the world they lived in. This is to the glory of the human race, I would think.
ConsequentAtheist
Registered Senior Member
Nice post.
I think we were visited by the an alien race who were the "Titans." Because the aliens already knew about anti-gravity and the space/tme continuum, they were able to build the pyramids with presicion tools like laser beams that hewn very large stones from a quarry, etc. With their knowledge of anti-gravity, they were able to build the pyramids with their space ship, possibly, by lifting the huge stones into place. Maybe, at that time, the Sahara wasn't there, but spacecraft landing there created a burnt spot on earth. For some reason, I think the aliens were partial to arid areas. Maybe this was because damper areas may have interfered with their anti-gravity abilities.
Anyway, we really don't know for sure how they got here, but the Egpytians as well as other cultures had drawings of space-like creatures in their caves, etc. So I think building the pyramids was probably a very easy job that took no time at all.
Pyramids of varying designs can be found all over the world. They are not limited to Egypt, Mexico and Peru. They are found in China, too. I think there is a connection between China and the Pacific Coast of North and South America. Eskimos in the Arctic are very similar to Mongolians of Northern China, for example. Mayans and Peruvians look similar to Chinese, and their architecture is similar.
There has got to be an easy explanation for the pyramids. If they had been made by Man, they would have tumbled a long time ago.
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Try sticking with facts instead of fantasy.
~Raithere
And the historical records that have been found indicating that the pyramids were constructed by Egyptians under orders of various Pharos were then written for what reason?
Try sticking with facts instead of fantasy.
~Raithere
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Sometimes fantasy becomes reality. The important thing is to keep searching and thinking about all kinds of possibilities. I am aware of what the historical records say, but I retain my right to form alternate theories and share them with this group if I choose to.
Sometimes fantasy becomes reality. The important thing is to keep searching and thinking about all kinds of possibilities. I am aware of what the historical records say, but I retain my right to form alternate theories and share them with this group if I choose to.
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~Raithere
This is an argument from ignorance, “We don’t know. Therefore aliens did it.” It’s not a sufficient argument.
Actually, it would be more proper to say theorized rather than fantasized. Several groups have demonstrated that it is very possible to cut and move such large blocks of limestone using only tools that would have been available to the Egyptians. Now perhaps the Egyptians used different methods but the fact that it is possible has been well established.
Yes, many of the particulars are still unknown, and perhaps they always will be. I still don’t see any reasoning behind the leap to your conclusion.
What I asked was why.
First you have to establish some grounds to infer that they existed at all. Why aliens? Why not giants? Maybe great green giants assembled the pyramids like children with building-blocks.
Imagination and fantasy are wonderful things. But there are times when their use is appropriate and times when it’s simply silly. I don’t know how they make Philadelphia Cream Cheese. Does that mean it’s reasonable to fantasize that it is made by elves?
~Raithere
Something of interest
As we all know the exact value of Pi is unknown, that makes the circumfrence of all circles an inexact value. Maybe the value of Pi is one of the secrets of the universe.
A whole religion started in ancient Greece over the value of Pie and its mysteries.
As we all know the exact value of Pi is unknown, that makes the circumfrence of all circles an inexact value. Maybe the value of Pi is one of the secrets of the universe.
A whole religion started in ancient Greece over the value of Pie and its mysteries.
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Re: Something of interest
Greco:
<i>As we all know the exact value of Pi is unknown, that makes the circumfrence of all circles an inexact value.</i>
Just because we don't know something doesn't mean that thing doesn't exist. Of course circles have an exact circumference. It is simply impossible for us to measure the exact value, because we have no tools up to the job. But that has nothing to do with pi. We can't measure ANY distance to infinite accuracy.
Greco:
<i>As we all know the exact value of Pi is unknown, that makes the circumfrence of all circles an inexact value.</i>
Just because we don't know something doesn't mean that thing doesn't exist. Of course circles have an exact circumference. It is simply impossible for us to measure the exact value, because we have no tools up to the job. But that has nothing to do with pi. We can't measure ANY distance to infinite accuracy.