Trump has surrendered to Islamic extremist terror....
The Muslim Ban Has Begun!
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The Soviets, not the US, applied the religious test - their refugee status in the US was based on their persecution.
Reversal of cause and effect. Jews vote Democrat - when they do, which Sherman Adelson (for example) does not - because of that, not the other way around. There's feedback, of course.
That may be so (presuming the recent massive cuts in employment of "real journalists" were not at all ideologically biased) but the news actually delivered these days on the major platforms does not reflect any such circumstance - most of it is biased and framed essentially as Breitbart is framed, or Fox. One finds the specifically Republican and authoritarian rightwing narrative of "both sides", for example, on all the major platforms.
One possible explanation for this is the nature of the corporate management of these large and few and easily coordinated businesses. Here is the chief political analyst of ABC News, for example, the guy in charge of setting the agenda and framing the news on ABC:
(not the MSNBC guy who canned everyone even leaned "liberal" except the two moneypots and replaced them with extra time for Joe Scarborough and Chuck Todd)
(not the guy running CNN who followed Trump around for nine months broadcasting entire speeches and long minutes of empty podiums while Sanders was scrabbling for half minutes )
ABC on his twitter account (courtesy driftglass, since I don't twitter and wouldn't follow this clown if I did):
So when this Muslim ban is presented as only or specifically Trumpian, rather than essentially Republican policy,
and a fuckup rather than a maneuver, which it is not as yet (he's getting what he wanted from it, so far)
it may be over the objections of some real journalists buried in there someplace, but it's happening anyway.
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You do know that the Pope only speaks for Catholicism, right?
He is by far the most influential leader within Christianity, and is the explicit leader for more than half of Christians worldwide. Thus opposition to his views is leading the right wing to denounce the beliefs of most Christians.
We have seen such reversals before. Republicans were once the party of small government, for example.
53% of Americans are Protestants, with only 22% Catholic. So Republicans largely do not consider the Pope a particularly influential leader. After all, all that priest pedophilia happened under the watch of a Pope. Christianity never advocated taking from people by penalty of law for charity. Jesus counseled individuals, not states.
So yes, US Christians have always denounced the views of people from more socialist countries. Nothing new there.
Democrats also use to be the party of small government.
And of course if Republicans don't consider something, it stops existing in the world. That not only gets rid of Popes, but almost all foreigners, most scientists, climate change, and the country of Mexico.
Especially when it meant giving up their slaves, and then desegregating their schools and hospitals and the like. They got really angry about that one.
You and some of the other members here seem to be immune to reason, only if you happen to disagree. Ever heard the term 'echo chamber'?
This forum allows halfwits and cretins a full voice, where Speaker's Corner would be empty of onlookers other than psychologists on their lunch break, trying to find clues as to their own problems.
Why the fuck are you here?
I'm out, and fuck most of you. Delete my account. Delete my posts if you wish.
I respect many of you here, but the shit is higher than my boot tops, I'm old enough to know better by now to argue with children.
Goodbye.
This forum allows halfwits and cretins a full voice, where Speaker's Corner would be empty of onlookers other than psychologists on their lunch break, trying to find clues as to their own problems.
Why the fuck are you here?
I'm out, and fuck most of you. Delete my account. Delete my posts if you wish.
I respect many of you here, but the shit is higher than my boot tops, I'm old enough to know better by now to argue with children.
Goodbye.
Straw man. Who ever said the beliefs of one political party determined the existence of anything? The Pope having limit influence in the US doesn't mean he lacks influence elsewhere. But you know that...and are obviously being needlessly hyperbolic.
Democrats were the ones fighting for slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, etc..
Agreed. Christians do; Republicans do not.
Yep. So did the Crusades.
And, of course, 9/11 happened under the watch of a Republican.
Correct. They say that Christians should give to others - to share everything in common, to contribute to the needy, and to open their homes and hearts to those who they consider enemies.
Acts 4:32 -"Now the multitude of those who believed were of one heart and one mind; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common."
Luke 3:11 - "And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”
1 John 3:17 - "But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?"
Luke 6:32-35 - "If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to get back the same amount. But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil."
Matthew 25:41 - "Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’ They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’ He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ "
All of which is diametrically opposed to modern Republican dogma.
And today they are again.
Again, only 22% of American are Catholic. If you think that's a large proportion of either Christians or Republicans...
Yep, and the Crusades were specifically a Christian undertaking. I suppose you think 9/11 was a Republican conspiracy?
Nowhere does it say anyone, including Christians, should force others or be forced to charity.
Ephesians 4:28 - Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.
2 Thessalonians 3:10 - For even when we were with you, we would give you this command: If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat.
Proverbs 13:22 - A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is laid up for the righteous.
Proverbs 13:4 - The soul of the sluggard craves and gets nothing, while the soul of the diligent is richly supplied.
Luke 12:13-14 - Someone in the crowd said to Him [Jesus Christ], ‘Teacher, tell my brother to divide the family inheritance with me.’ But He said to him, ‘Man, who appointed Me a judge or arbitrator over you?'
Matthew 25:27-28 - “Then you ought to have put my money in the bank, and on my arrival I would have received my money back with interest. Therefore take away the talent from him, and give it to the one who has the ten talents.”
Matthew 20:13-15 - But he replied to one of them, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius? 14 Take what belongs to you and go. I choose to give to this last worker as I give to you. 15 Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me?
So which of these is counter to Republican ideals?
LOL! Only since they've lost the federal government.
21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
Christ never forces any one... why would you even suggest such a thing...
However one may be charitable if one wishes to follow the Christ....
So
- Warren Buffett
- Clinton's
- Bill Gates
- Mark Zuckerberg
Why does that not make me ecstatically happy?
Why does that not make me miserably sad?
Oh right this is a real world not supernatural one
Since when has the world ever been real?
Yep. Christian Democrats - meaning the Baptist and Methodist ones, not the Catholics. They're mostly Republicans now - since about 1968.
The Republican core voting base and their media puppeteers.
Medium Dave
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Yes, we had such good relations with Iraq. I think the travel ban is a good deal weighed against nation wrecking Zionist invasions.
I don't follow your post . What are the "nation wrecking Zionist invasions" and what are they "weighed against"?
Bells
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I would also suggest you read this site's rules in regards to what you are posting on this site. Pay particular attention to I16 through to I18..
Perhaps you are not aware of how this looks, so it might behoove you to clarify what you mean by "nation wrecking Zionist invasions"..
I would also suggest you read this site's rules in regards to what you are posting on this site. Pay particular attention to I16 through to I18..