The Muslim Ban Has Begun!

He doesn't trust the courts to rule on law and give judgements on the legality of the Order

well who does Trump Trust? I don't think he trusts any one...he's paranoid...

tweets: in caps

SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!

oh please! tis so obvious....
 
If I was Trump I would invite ALL the judges involved into the Situation Room, give them copies of the Top Secret (or higher if available) accessments of terrorism

Once they have read and discused the assessments I would have them arested on the way out the door on the basis they could not be trusted with such material based on their past behaviour

:)
Yeah, those tactics worked so well for Stalin, Hitler, and Saddam.

Trump's base may be there, but most Americans are not.
 
May be someone will tweet in response:
THE GREATEST THREAT TO OUR NATIONS SECURITY IS A PARANOID PRESIDENT
 
The greatest weapon ISIL ( Daesh) had/has is generating mass hysteria fear.
Trump is just one of it's many high profile victims..
All persons who threaten ISIL show similar symptoms...Tony Abbot ex Australian PM was one of them...IMO
 
well who does Trump Trust? I don't think he trusts any one...he's paranoid...

tweets: in caps

SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!

oh please! tis so obvious....

If this was a situation in one of the forces and you Commander gave you a order you don't have the luxury of ' wait while I check it out ' which the lawyers bringing action against the Order seem to think

You follow the legal order or find yourself in the brig

Put them in the brig (chant chant)
 
If this was a situation in one of the forces and you Commander gave you a order you don't have the luxury of ' wait while I check it out ' which the lawyers bringing action against the Order seem to think

You follow the legal order or find yourself in the brig

Put them in the brig (chant chant)
You have a circular argument there in that you have assumed it was a legal order. Where are the judges that agree with you? The best you have is the Boston judge who opined that certain individuals didn't have the right to ask the court that question.

Also you ignore the power of the federal courts who were asked to make that call.

Also you ignore the damage done by an order which was never vetted by people who knew the laws, policies and procedures of this land. It states right in the body of the EO that the President and his staff don't have a clue.

Also you ignore that Congress has the duty to create a uniform immigration rule and when they delegated powers to the President, they required him to establish findings of fact — findings that were wholly missing when the court asked for them.
 
If this was a situation in one of the forces and you Commander gave you a order you don't have the luxury of ' wait while I check it out ' which the lawyers bringing action against the Order seem to think

You follow the legal order or find yourself in the brig

Put them in the brig (chant chant)
Well here is the thing this isn't that situation: not even close.

We aren't soldiers, and he isn't our commander, and the issue here is the legality of his orders.

Unfortunately for you and your comrades we are a nation of laws where the rule of law is upheld. We aren't a banana republic.
 
I think it was old Willy the conqueror 1040ad that started the old " no one is above the law" principle. Not sure but....
Edit: wrong ...
Aristotle. ?
 
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If the POTUS does not have the support of the Judiciary he has no power. It is after all the role of the judiciary to enforce the law.
 
21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

Christ never forces any one... why would you even suggest such a thing...

However one may be charitable if one wishes to follow the Christ....

If the Pope is forwarding charity and open borders as government policy, then yes, that entails the threat of penalty to enforce. Since "hard" doesn't mean impossible and "perfect" is not required, and I've already given ample examples of Biblical capitalism, you don't seem to have much of a point.


Yep. Christian Democrats - meaning the Baptist and Methodist ones, not the Catholics. They're mostly Republicans now - since about 1968.

Source?

The Republican core voting base and their media puppeteers.

Paranoid delusion.
 
Having a little trouble reading? Christians do think the Pope is an important religious leader; Republicans do not. Republicans no longer represent Christianity or Christian ideals.

Nope. Only 22% of Americans follow the Pope at all. So you're generality about Christians doesn't apply in the US. You either don't live here, or you're an atheist, cluelessly talking about things you don't know anything about. Whether Republicans represent Christian ideals or not, Christians are still majority Republican.

And you think the Pope was behind the child molestation scandal?

A Pope has been named in a lawsuit of conspiring to cover up molestations before (granted immunity by the Department of State). A Pope has accepted the resignation of an Archbishop who covered up molestations, but kept him on with the church, in an administrative position. A Pope has overseen moving accused priests out of the accusing country only to have them again working in contact with children. So certainly some culpability after the fact.

Correct. They should do it of their own accord. A Christian nation would welcome refugees with open arms. A Christian nation would make sure no one went hungry. A Christian nation would not build walls to keep the needy out; they would build bridges to welcome them. A Christian nation would embrace the differences amongst people rather than sow hate and fear for those who are different. A Chrisitian nation would see wealth as a tool to help others, not as something to be hoarded, jealously guarded and built upon.

All of which is diametrically opposed to modern Republican dogma.

Individual Christians may very well welcome refugees, but nowhere does that impute to their nation, as a matter of policy. No nation can do what you suggest without forced taxation to accomplish it, hence forcing charity...never mentioned in the Bible. Funny how atheists all think they're experts on a religion they think is a fairytale.

But guess what. Without capitalism, America wouldn't be in the position to help anyone. Bankrupting it removes any ability to help anyone else.
 
You have a circular argument there in that you have assumed it was a legal order.

Nooooo

No such assumption

When the Order was taken to court (remember it is the Order was taken to court not the contents) in order to judge if the Order was legal

The judges steped away from that to rule on the contents (if the contents are good or bad etc)

Also you ignore the damage done by an order which was never vetted by people who knew the laws, policies and procedures of this land. It states right in the body of the EO that the President and his staff don't have a clue.

Implication was a shambles yes

That does not negate the legal power to issue the order

The damage done by the poor implementation is the size of a ant to a elephant compared to the damage the challenge and poor judgement from the bench is continuing to inflict

he isn't our commander,

Oh sorry I thought he has a title of Commander in Chief

Who do you consider is your Commander?

Unfortunately for you and your comrades we are a nation of laws where the rule of law is upheld. We aren't a banana republic.

Sorry I do not have any
  • Comrades
  • Or bananas
:)
 
Nooooo

No such assumption

When the Order was taken to court (remember it is the Order was taken to court not the contents) in order to judge if the Order was legal

The judges steped away from that to rule on the contents (if the contents are good or bad etc)



Implication was a shambles yes

That does not negate the legal power to issue the order

The damage done by the poor implementation is the size of a ant to a elephant compared to the damage the challenge and poor judgement from the bench is continuing to inflict



Oh sorry I thought he has a title of Commander in Chief

Who do you consider is your Commander?



Sorry I do not have any
  • Comrades
  • Or bananas
:)
And not care to do the research...
 
I think it was old Willy the conqueror 1040ad that started the old " no one is above the law" principle. Not sure but....
Edit: wrong ...
Aristotle. ?

" no one is above the law" principle.

Some lawyers are below their principles
Michael circ 2017

:)
 
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